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Impact of 30% rental income tax on housing development in Kenya
maka
#181 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:19:45 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Tax evasion is like having sex with a prostitute.a lot of people do it--but no one wants to talk about it.

For instance i buy items at bargain prices by asking the seller not to issue me with an etr and i also avoid its use when i sell.for kra guyz i sort them out coz they have to earn a living too.

@Mawinder i,l be very careful if I were you,the guy at the helm is a no nonsense guy he has an amazing work ethic and doesnt tolerate nonsense make sure you dont cross his path ama ndio utajua cha mtema kuni...
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mawinder
#182 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:35:13 PM
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maka wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Tax evasion is like having sex with a prostitute.a lot of people do it--but no one wants to talk about it.

For instance i buy items at bargain prices by asking the seller not to issue me with an etr and i also avoid its use when i sell.for kra guyz i sort them out coz they have to earn a living too.

@Mawinder i,l be very careful if I were you,the guy at the helm is a no nonsense guy he has an amazing work ethic and doesnt tolerate nonsense make sure you dont cross his path ama ndio utajua cha mtema kuni...

i dont even fall in the large tax payers so i will always settle issues with his juniors.
itz
#183 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:01:08 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
Githae /Njiraini are on the right path regarding taxation.

Once they set an enabling environment for collection of idle land tax, probably after enacting the land commissions, this will result in flooding of land for sale hence reduction of land prices.

People will now opt to buy land and construct as opposed to renting. This will cause a surge in employment within the construction sector hence reduction of crime rate,poverty, unemployment,landlessness e.t.c
This, coupled with Turkana Oil is the solution for Kenya's economy.



@architect.This is a simplistic way of looking at the factors of demand/price/supply of land.It will also depend on their definition of idle land.If i plant trees,or grass for hay would they consider it idle land.I think those who own land will look for ways to avoid that tax so no celebrations yet or opening the champagne bottle because of expected lower land prices.
Cheap available credit has higher effect on inflating land/property prices.

I also had a question for you.In the higher end neighborhoods like karen/runda where they only sell land at minimum of half acre, do they issue seperate titles on different houses incase you build more than one house on that half acre.
a4architect.com
#184 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:15:13 AM
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itz wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
Githae /Njiraini are on the right path regarding taxation.

Once they set an enabling environment for collection of idle land tax, probably after enacting the land commissions, this will result in flooding of land for sale hence reduction of land prices.

People will now opt to buy land and construct as opposed to renting. This will cause a surge in employment within the construction sector hence reduction of crime rate,poverty, unemployment,landlessness e.t.c
This, coupled with Turkana Oil is the solution for Kenya's economy.



@architect.This is a simplistic way of looking at the factors of demand/price/supply of land.It will also depend on their definition of idle land.If i plant trees,or grass for hay would they consider it idle land.I think those who own land will look for ways to avoid that tax so no celebrations yet or opening the champagne bottle because of expected lower land prices.
Cheap available credit has higher effect on inflating land/property prices.

I also had a question for you.In the higher end neighborhoods like karen/runda where they only sell land at minimum of half acre, do they issue seperate titles on different houses incase you build more than one house on that half acre.


@itz, as we speak, all land in Kenya is zoned as either residential, commerical,agricultural .educational or industrial.

Within each zone eg residential, the density is also stated e.g karen o.5 acre per house, Umoja, cbd minimum 5 floors high, Umoja maximum 5 levels high e.t.c.

When the land owner simply says he has planted grass on his high density umoja plot or industrial plot at industrial area, he will simply be lectured on the land use and the minimum ammount of development within that specified land use.
On the Karen issue, only 1 house is allowed on 0.5 acre plot. Titles are only issued for o.5 acre and above.

As usual, some people wishing for status quo to remain will simply push for unqualified persons to be employed within the local authorities and land commissions. Unqualified means persons whose education does not allow them to interpret zoning regulations and land values as oppoed to land valuers, land surveyors, quantity surveyors, land planners and architects.
Once they replace the above with geographists, statisticians, lawyers, scientists e.t.c they can remain with satus quo.
As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
nakujua
#185 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:47:56 AM
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Ali Baba wrote:
NAKUJUA:If I would evade taxes,I would not boast on a public forum like Wazua.However,he who is innocent of this vice,should cast the first stone.Anyone????


the only source of income for a good number of people is a salary, whose tax is remitted by the employer.
most employed kenyans have a clean tax record.
Ali Baba
#186 Posted : Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:05:01 PM
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NAKUJUA: Yes,the employed ones.But others who earn income from business--most of them at one time or another,failed to pay tax,or underpaid their taxes.Eg..I know many such people.There is one guy who has failed to remit taxes from an income of more than shs 40m per year.Mpaka,he owns real estate abroad.
youcan'tstopusnow
#187 Posted : Friday, January 25, 2013 8:26:13 PM
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"...despite a boom in the real
estate and commercial
buildings popping up in every
edge of the road, only about 500 landlords, as per the half year KRA report, had turned to pay up their tax obligation."
http://www.businessdaily...4/-/jws830/-/index.html
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Ngong
#188 Posted : Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:56:58 PM
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Seles83
#189 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2013 7:26:45 AM
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Ali Baba wrote:
Increasing rent is not a solution as such.KRA will still tax the increase,hence the landlord's taxable income will go up.Now,you whiners pay tax!! That's the only way out.personally,I pay more than sh 500,000 a year in taxes.Let's share this burden together!!!!


Economy is built by middle class, financed and run by elites..

Unfortunately we live in democracy..Sharing is just an elusion..

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