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kollabo		#1 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:50:56 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317		The president is away in Brazil for the Rio+20 summit a gathering of about 134 heads of state. But now the PM has also left for Russia to attend a forum supposedly to woo Russian investors. Not very good for a developing country especially when in any given week approximately 30% of the cabinet are out of the country. It gets worse when the President and PM travel they are accompanied by a retinue of ministers, assistants and PS's who should be serving Kenyans.
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chiaroscuro		#2 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:30:47 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi		Do you not understand that the PM is NOT the President's assistant? That role belongs to the VP... and Kalonzo is around [at least he is supposed to be here] If [the president is not able to carry out his duties, his position will be taken by the VP. That is how it has always been, even before the new constitution. The PM does not enter into that equation at all!
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Robinhood		#3 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:14:44 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306		The Veep is around. He would take over should something happen to the President Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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vinii		#4 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:21:32 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/14/2009 Posts: 2,057		chiaroscuro wrote: Do you not understand that the PM is NOT the President's assistant? That role belongs to the VP... and Kalonzo is around [at least he is supposed to be here] If [the president is not able to carry out his duties, his position will be taken by the VP. That is how it has always been, even before the new constitution. The PM does not enter into that equation at all! ..are you suggesting hakuna Nus Serkal? If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
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Lolest!		#5 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:31:02 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		chiaroscuro wrote: Do you not understand that the PM is NOT the President's assistant? That role belongs to the VP... and Kalonzo is around [at least he is supposed to be here] If [the president is not able to carry out his duties, his position will be taken by the VP. That is how it has always been, even before the new constitution. The PM does not enter into that equation at all! the DPMs are in the country too? But I think kollabo is addressing the issue of too many trips by these wakubwa and the costs involved.
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chiaroscuro		#6 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:36:47 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi		vinii wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: Do you not understand that the PM is NOT the President's assistant? That role belongs to the VP... and Kalonzo is around [at least he is supposed to be here] If [the president is not able to carry out his duties, his position will be taken by the VP. That is how it has always been, even before the new constitution. The PM does not enter into that equation at all! ..are you suggesting hakuna Nus Serkal? It is not a suggestion! It is the constitutional position including the coalition agreement signed between Raila and Kibaki. Truth be told: there is nothing like "nusu mkate". ODM simply didn't get any mkate!
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digitek1		#7 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:04:09 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya		They got a slice, ile crust ya mwisho kabisa. tena it has holes Lakini messi yuko I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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McReggae		#8 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:11:11 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		chiaroscuro wrote: vinii wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: Do you not understand that the PM is NOT the President's assistant? That role belongs to the VP... and Kalonzo is around [at least he is supposed to be here] If [the president is not able to carry out his duties, his position will be taken by the VP. That is how it has always been, even before the new constitution. The PM does not enter into that equation at all! ..are you suggesting hakuna Nus Serkal? It is not a suggestion! It is the constitutional position including the coalition agreement signed between Raila and Kibaki. Truth be told: there is nothing like "nusu mkate". ODM simply didn't get any mkate! That I like so much......wait till when things are going wrong...it then becomes a coaltion/shared garment!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Lolest!		#9 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:18:23 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		McReggae wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: vinii wrote: chiaroscuro wrote: Do you not understand that the PM is NOT the President's assistant? That role belongs to the VP... and Kalonzo is around [at least he is supposed to be here] If [the president is not able to carry out his duties, his position will be taken by the VP. That is how it has always been, even before the new constitution. The PM does not enter into that equation at all! ..are you suggesting hakuna Nus Serkal? It is not a suggestion! It is the constitutional position including the coalition agreement signed between Raila and Kibaki. Truth be told: there is nothing like "nusu mkate". ODM simply didn't get any mkate! That I like so much......wait till when things are going wrong...it then becomes a coaltion/shared garment!!!! ...when things go right? It is ODM ministers who should be thanked!wapi @nostop?
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Manyala		#10 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:00:39 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2011 Posts: 482 Location: Nairobi		chiaroscuro wrote: Do you not understand that the PM is NOT the President's assistant? That role belongs to the VP... and Kalonzo is around [at least he is supposed to be here] If [the president is not able to carry out his duties, his position will be taken by the VP. That is how it has always been, even before the new constitution. The PM does not enter into that equation at all! @chiaroscuro, So very right. VP is only President's Assistant[PA]. He does not however deputize the president, when President is out of the country unless specifically delegated to. Right again, on taking over when President is not able. That is why he his VP and not DP. That is why they are changing the 'contusion' on this.
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