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Understanding dowry terms in intermarriages
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callaspade
#41 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:40:28 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Politics made the word 'kihii' be seen as offensive. I remember sometime back when Uhuru was defending Kibaki from ODM attacks and he asked 'Mareciria Kibaki ni kihii kiao?' NTV translated this to mean 'They think Kibaki is uncircumcised?'. This was clearly wrong. I remember wazuans, even the respected older ones who you'd expect to understand and interpret correctly siding with the NTV mistranslation.

The other misunderstood word is 'nyukwa'.



.....yaaani Laughing out loudly had to bring in politics on this culture thread....hiyo wacha Shame on you Shame on you
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Lolest!
#42 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:42:22 AM
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essyk wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Politics made the word 'kihii' be seen as offensive. I remember sometime back when Uhuru was defending Kibaki from ODM attacks and he asked 'Mareciria Kibaki ni kihii kiao?' NTV translated this to mean 'They think Kibaki is uncircumcised?'. This was clearly wrong. I remember wazuans, even the respected older ones who you'd expect to understand and interpret correctly siding with the NTV mistranslation.

The other misunderstood word is 'nyukwa'.

d'oh! d'oh! this means something nasty.I just dont know what.

It just means 'your mother'
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
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digitek1
#43 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:42:56 AM
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Na roto tank ..is one supposed to carry this ama pia ni pesa
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Lolest!
#44 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:44:19 AM
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callaspade wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Politics made the word 'kihii' be seen as offensive. I remember sometime back when Uhuru was defending Kibaki from ODM attacks and he asked 'Mareciria Kibaki ni kihii kiao?' NTV translated this to mean 'They think Kibaki is uncircumcised?'. This was clearly wrong. I remember wazuans, even the respected older ones who you'd expect to understand and interpret correctly siding with the NTV mistranslation.

The other misunderstood word is 'nyukwa'.



.....yaaani Laughing out loudly had to bring in politics on this culture thread....hiyo wacha Shame on you Shame on you

sorry, it just took me back to that time. With people insisting that 'kihii' has only one meaning.

Hata weweShame on you Shame on you I have not deviated. Let's continue discussing goats, cows and honey.
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Njung'e
#45 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:48:34 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
essyk wrote:

Surely lemmie ask this,if this present generation dont know these traditions,meanings and stuff and they are the same people with sons and daughters playing online games,what will happen in future?
Traditions will just die.

Some traditions should just be allowed to die. Bride price paying belongs to the same group as FGM.


@Lolest,

You belong to the group that believes bride price is for buying the girl?smile ....wacha wewe!!...Unatak kuwa mtwanga freeLaughing out loudly ....Anyway,it's a symbol of bonding the two families.that much we have been told.
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essyk
#46 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:49:12 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
Na roto tank ..is one supposed to carry this ama pia ni pesa

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I thought there was a standard list of stuff.Like a template of things asked for during dowry negotiations!!
No wonder I see lots of roto tanks on vehicles over the weekends heading to central.
At this rate,I fear what this generation of 'lost' people will demand for.
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Njung'e
#47 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:52:54 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
Na roto tank ..is one supposed to carry this ama pia ni pesa


A camel will do....it also stores watersmile
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chemos
#48 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:56:15 AM
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i saw one buy honey from tuskys na akapeleka hadi receipt ndio ionyeshe how much he spent..

Na musiseme ni mimi...
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nakujua
#49 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:01:48 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
nakujua wrote:
its funny that some claims to understand the traditions of the kikuyu, even quoting some deep proverbs and yet they go ahead and say that goats don't represent the real goats but the cash equivalent and the honey represents sugar.


kaigangio and i have said that much and as far as i know,where intermarriages are involved,this is acceptable.Think,if you daughter marries a Ghanaian boy,would you expect your in-laws to ship goats and honey from Kumasi?Sad


if negotiations had been done and an agreement reached then tradition dictates that 40 goats be delivered to the compound, it didn't matter back then and it should not matter now how far the in-laws came from they had and should deliver the same, if traditions are to be followed.

imagine if wazees back then asked for 40 goats -then you brought some thousands of cowrie shells. smile
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jguru
#50 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:03:37 PM
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chemos wrote:
i saw one buy honey from tuskys na akapeleka hadi receipt ndio ionyeshe how much he spent..

Na musiseme ni mimi...


Ha ha ha! Applause

2 crates of Summit Lager or 40 liters of Muratina could have been better appreciated.

Dowry lingo is never literal. smile
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