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Understanding dowry terms in intermarriages
Njung'e
#11 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:55:50 AM
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This is where i say "Ihii ititumaguo uthoni"Pray smile ....Simply said,the "uncircumspected" are not to be sent to dowry negotiations....Literally... and i do not mean any offence or disrespect pliz!......First,Gachie is almost in the middle of Nairobi.Why pray would you want to take goats to your in-laws who live in the city?Here,common sense should have prevailed.Second,the Agikuyu dowry laws allow for part payment and the rest can be done in instalments,thus 10 goats would have sufficed and the remaining 30 paid over a life time.Third and most important,estimates for goats given here are for those sourced from Kia-Maiko.....The Agikuyu (And i know it also happens to many other communities) have a different benchmark for pricing of "animals of blood" (Indo cia thakame).........At current a goat wouldn't be more than Kshs 1500.

And so it's easy.Kshs 60,000.00 was probably the asking price and an initial 15K would have been good enough......You blew it for your friendLaughing out loudly .
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
YesuWangu
#12 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:08:39 AM
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Every community has its own terminology and euphemisms for events. Its good to know them if one wants to do an event.
AlphDoti
#13 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:08:52 AM
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@essyk, be careful. As @Lolest says, some people made it a rip off scheme.
Did you know every trip to in-laws costs you something?
Let those who know the culture advice, but I think you can convert the 'goats' into cash.

This guy @Tebes looks like he's from my community.
I paid: 1 Bull, 1 Cow with calf (still suckling), 1 Heifer (ready for landing), 1 heifer (still pending smile) and 1 sheep for her mother.

I see your 40 goats is approx the same as 'ours'.

Also you need to be smart here. Have you not heard people who borrow loans for this venture?
Do not tell your fiancee straight to the face that you cannot accept this, but find a smart way to win her sympathy and spend less.

@Robinhood when they play games, you threaten to take off because you don not have time to waste.
Lolest!
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:09:39 AM
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essyk wrote:


lemmie see. 40 goats@4k= sh.160,000.

Hapo ningelipa rent ya one month

But you don't say!!!smileNo wonder you are begging @kaigangio's landlord group to go slow on tenants!

Seriously, I thought that it is standard that you will get someone from the bride's side to guide you in understanding the requirements. The value of 1 goat in Gachie might be much higher than Kanderendu, Ngurubani, Mutwe wa Thi or Wanjohi. You need to know how much they need per goat.

Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
essyk
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:23:25 AM
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Lolest! wrote:

But you don't say!!!smileNo wonder you are begging @kaigangio's landlord group to go slow on tenants!
Seriously, I thought that it is standard that you will get someone from the bride's side to guide you in understanding the requirements. The value of 1 goat in Gachie might be much higher than Kanderendu, Ngurubani, Mutwe wa Thi or Wanjohi. You need to know how much they need per goat.

No no,LOL am a wanjiku.
I meant my commission from that figure would have paid my rent.smile
Quote:
Seriously, I thought that it is standard that you will get someone from the bride's side to guide you in understanding the requirements. The value of 1 goat in Gachie might be much higher than Kanderendu, Ngurubani, Mutwe wa Thi or Wanjohi. You need to know how much they need per goat.


The whole party was from Bukusu and my friend called me on Monday after the 'weekend of ruracio'
Hata mimi Pray If it weren't for my 'lorry friend I wouldn't have known.
The pic on my mind was of those lorries carrying goats from northern kenya with wolalos on top.

God knows how hard the guy laughed after I told him I needed a lorry to ferry goats for dowry to gachie.
Alinikemea tu.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
Much Know
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:24:00 AM
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@ guka fungua consultancy ya hii mambo. People have been paying the amount asked for and even plan on bringing 40 goats to Nairobi literary. I know someone from lakeside who paid 1.2million when they were to pay 50k.
Ras Kienyeji Man
nakujua
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:28:50 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
This is where i say "Ihii ititumaguo uthoni"Pray smile ....Simply said,the "uncircumspected" are not to be sent to dowry negotiations....Literally... and i do not mean any offence or disrespect pliz!......First,Gachie is almost in the middle of Nairobi.Why pray would you want to take goats to your in-laws who live in the city?Here,common sense should have prevailed.Second,the Agikuyu dowry laws allow for part payment and the rest can be done in instalments,thus 10 goats would have sufficed and the remaining 30 paid over a life time.Third and most important,estimates for goats given here are for those sourced from Kia-Maiko.....The Agikuyu (And i know it also happens to many other communities) have a different benchmark for pricing of "animals of blood" (Indo cia thakame).........At current a goat wouldn't be more than Kshs 1500.

And so it's easy.Kshs 60,000.00 was probably the asking price and an initial 15K would have been good enough......You blew it for your friendLaughing out loudly .


Ouchhhh !!!!!
cmk
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:31:19 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
This is where i say "Ihii ititumaguo uthoni"Pray smile ....Simply said,the "uncircumspected" are not to be sent to dowry negotiations....Literally... and i do not mean any offence or disrespect pliz!......First,Gachie is almost in the middle of Nairobi.Why pray would you want to take goats to your in-laws who live in the city?Here,common sense should have prevailed.Second,the Agikuyu dowry laws allow for part payment and the rest can be done in instalments,thus 10 goats would have sufficed and the remaining 30 paid over a life time.Third and most important,estimates for goats given here are for those sourced from Kia-Maiko.....The Agikuyu (And i know it also happens to many other communities) have a different benchmark for pricing of "animals of blood" (Indo cia thakame).........At current a goat wouldn't be more than Kshs 1500.

And so it's easy.Kshs 60,000.00 was probably the asking price and an initial 15K would have been good enough......You blew it for your friendLaughing out loudly .


@ njung'e..ditto
advise essik well..she must have been in the wrong bus!!
Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do-
Voltaire
essyk
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:34:37 AM
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Quote:
This is where i say "Ihii ititumaguo uthoni"


You guys don't know Bukunyes well then
I have lived among them and calling one a 'Kihii' is an insult of the highest degree.
The groom party didn't consist of 'ihiis'
They are fully grown ndurumes
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
cmk
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:38:54 AM
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essyk wrote:
Quote:
This is where i say "Ihii ititumaguo uthoni"


You guys don't know Bukunyes well then
I have lived among them and calling one a 'Kihii' is an insult of the highest degree.
The groom party didn't consist of 'ihiis'
They are fully grown ndurumes



you are yet to get the point??ask njung'e to translate for you..kihii here means unexperienced
Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do-
Voltaire
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