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eboomerang
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:40:35 PM
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New Bill seeks safe landing for those eyeing presidency

Parliament is pushing to change election laws with the aim of giving presidential candidates and their running mates a soft landing should they fail in their bid for the highest political office.

MPs want the Elections Act amended to allow presidential candidates and their running mates to contest for any other elective seats during general elections.

When elected, they would then relinquish the other seats, occasioning by-elections. It is estimated that a by-election costs nearly Sh40 million. The Miscellaneous (Amendment) Bill 2012 sponsored by Nambale MP Chris Okemo will be scrutinised at the committee stage today.


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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:13:36 PM
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Why did "we"? Who are the "we"? Shame on you Shame on you

I emphatically voted "NO" and I'm on record to saying so right here in wazua.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:52:25 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Why did "we"? Who are the "we"? Shame on you Shame on you

I emphatically voted "NO" and I'm on record to saying so right here in wazua.
Google archives.
No regrets whatsoever!

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eboomerang
#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:39:56 PM
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FancyFace wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Why did "we"? Who are the "we"? Shame on you Shame on you

I emphatically voted "NO" and I'm on record to saying so right here in wazua.
Google archives.
No regrets whatsoever!

eish kuwa mpole..We is relative smile


smile In anycase, the question is also rhetorical.

It doesn't make sense for the country to have gone through all that anxiety of overhauling the constitution only for some MPs to now come back and try to change such a fundamental thing in the constitution.
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eboomerang
#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:00:02 PM
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eboomerang
#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:03:41 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Why did "we"? Who are the "we"? Shame on you Shame on you

I emphatically voted "NO" and I'm on record to saying so right here in wazua.
Google archives.
No regrets whatsoever!

Whether old or new constitution, this move by Hon.Okemo is urtterly retrogrsive to say the least.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:27:36 PM
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eboomerang wrote:
New Bill seeks safe landing for those eyeing presidency

Parliament is pushing to change election laws with the aim of giving presidential candidates and their running mates a soft landing should they fail in their bid for the highest political office.

MPs want the Elections Act amended to allow presidential candidates and their running mates to contest for any other elective seats during general elections.

When elected, they would then relinquish the other seats, occasioning by-elections. It is estimated that a by-election costs nearly Sh40 million. The Miscellaneous (Amendment) Bill 2012 sponsored by Nambale MP Chris Okemo will be scrutinised at the committee stage today.


Full article can be found here: Link



is this the jersey man.I wish they come for him before the bill reaches parliament.anyway let them do what they want but natural selection and choppers will take them one by one and we will be left with afew that acknoledge the our beloved constitution and know that they are just mortals made of flesh and blood not gods
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:28:50 PM
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To accomodate nusu mkeka and his activist . You did not need a new const to be Pm .
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:32:48 PM
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we still have the best constitution in the world this selfish bill will not see the light of the day.take this to the bank.?
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:55:56 PM
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This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.
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eboomerang
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:28:33 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.

Whether an amendment or whatever you want to call it, the whole idea is very selfish and dilutes the very reason why people fought many years to bring reforms to Kenya.

Why do these people walk around thinking they are the only ones entitled to lead people? majority of them have nothing concrete to show for the many years of being in leadership...NKT!
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:53:40 AM
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This is where the spirit of the constitution comes
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:57:47 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Why did "we"? Who are the "we"? Shame on you Shame on you

I emphatically voted "NO" and I'm on record to saying so right here in wazua.
Google archives.
No regrets whatsoever!


Even though you said NO, you were actually not saying NO to the whole document but just parts of the document that you felt were not meeting your 'standards'..... I doubt this particular issue would have fitted your "NO" bill was it removed from the constitution and voted on its own... hence, it would be in order to say "WE" unless you feel that Okemo Bill is for the good of the country.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:01:39 AM
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this reminds me of a quote i read a long time ago..can't remember the book.
"we made them into gods when we did not own the skies"think it was close to that.
Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do-
Voltaire
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:53:34 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.


I agree with you!!!
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:32:03 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.


I agree with you!!!


It is unconstitutional to the letter.
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Impunity
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:39:36 AM
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kollabo wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.


I agree with you!!!


It is unconstitutional to the letter.


Its is unconstitutional as per the spirit of the letter!
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:50:51 AM
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Impunity wrote:
kollabo wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.


I agree with you!!!


It is unconstitutional to the letter.


Its is unconstitutional as per the spirit of the letter!


Guys there are rules and procedures of ammending any clause in the constitution, if this is followed and succeeds, I got no problem....
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eboomerang
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:42:29 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kollabo wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.


I agree with you!!!


It is unconstitutional to the letter.


Its is unconstitutional as per the spirit of the letter!


Guys there are rules and procedures of ammending any clause in the constitution, if this is followed and succeeds, I got no problem....


I don't think we should even get to the level of discussing whether the right procedure was followed or not.

We just need to nip the whole idea in the bud.
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Lolest!
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:50:07 PM
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kollabo wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
This is not a constitutional amendment. It is an amendment to the Elections Act. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.


I agree with you!!!


It is unconstitutional to the letter.

Does the letter of the constitution forbid an aspirant from running for 2 seats? Which article?
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