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Impact of 30% rental income tax on housing development in Kenya
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,342 Location: Nairobi
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Bachuma Gate wrote:Time will tell whether this will have a negative impact on housing development in Kenya. I personally think it will.
1. A good number of investors in this sector have bought property to rent. Imagine buying 2-2 bed flats at 9m. You get rent of 15K*2=30K less tax @30%. Is it worth investing 9million to end up with 20K per month ?. I see people rather putting their monies in other investment eg T/Bills etc where even with a rate of 9%, you are likely to end up with more than 50k pm.
Even without the income tax (which is only levied on NET INCOME after interest, maintenance, property taxes, depreciation, etc) the rental yields in many middle market areas were 6-8%.
2. People who still want to invest in properties will prefer areas where it is difficult for the tax man to touch them. So I am seeing more of mlolongo type of houses more than the elegant apartments coming up in Eastlands.
Why would it be that much more difficult for the tax man to tax mlolongo type of houses? A good register (takes time to build) of all land owned & what improvements are on it will help.
3. That rate of 30% is high. It should be graduated like PAYE but at lower rates to encouraged investment in this sector or even zoned. The pricing of flats/houses in Lavi, Kile, Runda is such that the investors may be able to pay tax but with rents of 5-28K in Eastlands, Ronga, Kitengela, Busia, Nyeri, Nakuru and other kenyan towns, I foresee alot of issues.
The tax is a percentage not a flat rate therefore a Landlord with 10 units at 5,000/- pays the same tax as another with 1 unit that yields 50,000/-. Please note I am discussing NET RENT after all allowable expenses.
4. If you borrow to buy a flat and then rent which majority do. Where does this leave you with the tax thing. The INTEREST that you pay the banks on 4.6m is well over 60K pm @20% interest. Yet your rental income is 15-18k. It is not much different when you borrow to build flat(s).
You are allowed to deduct interest from the GROSS RENT therefore you reduce your TAXABLE INCOME. Why would someone borrow at 20% to eran 15%? If they want to speculate on the rising prices then shauri yao. They should have reserves to cover the difference.
5. Most likely landlords will pass this tax to tenants. If you stay in middle class areas eg Langata, South B, Jamhuri, prepare to consider moving to Ronga, Kasarani, Eastlands, Kite etc
Supply & Demand. Landlords wil charge as much as the Market will bear. If you cannot pay the higher rent, the you will have no choice but to move. The Landlord has to find another Tenant. This is not 'free' to the Landlord. If he cannot find someone to rent at the higher rate then he will back down especially if he has interest to pay
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,342 Location: Nairobi
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Bachuma Gate wrote:Ali Baba - My topic is not about landlords not paying the tax. It about the impact on housing development. It will help if we discuss on that line. Investments are made based of projected returns. Currently, developers make great margins but these will drop yet the pace of development will continue. What affects the construction industry will not be the taxes in NET RENTAL INCOME as much as interest rates (currently at 17% or higher). Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,342 Location: Nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:If you pay 30k rent but you agree with the landlord that for tax purposes, the rent will be quoted at 10k or 8k [but you still pay him/her 30k] then what next? Will the government/KRA set minimum rents depending on the house?
This thing is just too easy to beat [for residential]. If a landlord gives you an option: Say you pay 30k and cough up an extra 9k in taxes or say you pay 8k and he coughs up the 2.4k taxes or you share it, which option will you take?
By the way, taxes will always be passed to the consumer!!! For those of you thinking that this burden is for the landlord, you had better think again! If you are a tenant, prepare to carry the burden or move to "vitongoji duni"! Habari ndiyo hiyo. These money is coming straight out of YOUR pocket!!! What a smart tax man does is compare like for like. If you rent a 3-bedroom flat is for 20,000 per month in Langata, they will compare that to other (somewhat) similar flats in the area. You may be 10% 'cheaper' but at some point it looks ridiculous if your neighbour pays 40,000 pm. In many estates, the flats are similar to each other. A wide variation may lead to an audit. Many flats/estates/compounds have 20-40 flats. A simple comparison of REPORTED rents can alert the Taxman to wide variations. It will take some time but it will happen. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,342 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote: even if they zero in using GIS technology, how will they know if the units are occupied - well they could go ahead and use some form of infrared technology to detect body movement in the individual units.
is it practical ? I don't think so.
It's a slow process but if the Taxman wants to determine how many units are rented, it will ask the landlord to certify how many units are occupied. Then it can 'raid' all the vacant properties to see if they are rented. Finally, it can access electricity & water records of each unit. If Flat A uses 1,000 KW monthly & is occupied, why is Flat B using 1,000 KW yet is unoccupied? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,342 Location: Nairobi
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Mkimwa wrote:Say I take a loan to finance a development, I pay interest on the loan. Will the interest be deducted first from the rent, before levying the 30%?
What about other costs - e.g. security, garbage, gardener, repairs?
If the net rental income (after deducting all related expenses) is what is going to be taxed, that is ok. Yes, the tax is on NET RENTAL INCOME Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 608 Location: Ruiru
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The impact of this tax on housing development may be minimal. Most Kenyans [with capital] tend to play it safe .... instead of investing on a manufacturing concern [e.g light industry] why not just put up a block of flats and collect rent forever. Creative accounting will come up with all sorts of deductible expenses and eventually absorb the tax element as business expense. The initial rent hikes will even out over time and given the demand for housing, it will still remain attractive. As someone pointed out, interest rates and land prices will have a bigger impact than rental income tax "..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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I think landlords must pay taxes.I pay taxes on my meagre salary 30% why not them? so they have been evading taxes all this time? 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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if you are a landlord please learn what is called Creative accounting !
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 280
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Vitu - Your contributions are value addition. What I meant with mulolongo type is those "train" type of houses with a toilets at the end. They can even be mabati type. They could also have be constructed on land with certificates. Landlord collecting rent is always cat and mouse thing. Tenant volatility is high. Then factor in that these are in large numbers all over kenya. It may prove to be a headache for KRA. Its akin to the informal sector businesses. The moment some fellas realize they can earn more from this type of houses than the formal ones, they will prefer investing here. EG. In Pipeline Embakasi, almost all the flats are tuu rooms with toilets per floor cause they fetch much more than the greenspan type. You can see how thing is booming. So yes it may drive guys to invest more in these type of structures. They will pay tax but well below their real incomes. DOH
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/24/2008 Posts: 112
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In my view Githae and Njiraini should initially focus on collecting VAT on rental income on commercial buildings, where evasion is rampant in the so called low income areas of Outer Ring, Mlolongo, Kawangware, Dagoretti Corner, Kangemi, Umoja, Buru Buru and similar estates and townships etc. etc.
In my view, KRA does not presently have the capacity or competence to effectively and efficiently collect taxes from landlords of residential properties that currently do not file returns or pay taxes on this income.
Similarly, KRA should demand that the owners of commercial and residential properties that do not file 'proper' returns to demonstrate that taxes have been paid on the funds with which they put up these buildings! It could very well be that the source of these funds are from the proceeds of corruption or other illegal activities that are being laundered through real estate development. It is highly unlikely that any licensed lender is providing loans or mortgages to persons without proper building plans or approvals from their respective local authorities.
My two cents....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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If the city council and other councils have been able to collect taxes (aka licenses/fees) from both formal and informal businesses including hawkers and mama mboga, then it would be laziness on the part of KRA to say that it is not able to collect tax on any property - formal or informal. Maybe they should contract kanjo to collect the funds for them.
BTW Kenya Power, Nairobi water etc collect their dues every month from all these properties, both formal and informal. Maybe they should share their database with KRA.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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QW25091985 wrote:if you are a landlord please learn what is called Creative accounting ! It is sad that after all the complaints on the forum regarding lack of services such as roads, streetlighting etc, by govt due to lack of funds, some would still recommend that landlords do not pay tax. Where will the money to provide the facilities and services come from? In countries like the UK, income tax on rental property is mandatory. Even those who live in their own homes (both urban and rural) pay a mandatory council tax of about GBP 130 (about Ksh17,000) per month. That is how they are able to maintain their roads, collect garbage etc. Those facilities in other countries that we always envy are paid for by their tax paying citizens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_Tax
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:QW25091985 wrote:if you are a landlord please learn what is called Creative accounting ! It is sad that after all the complaints on the forum regarding lack of services such as roads, streetlighting etc, by govt due to lack of funds, some would still recommend that landlords do not pay tax. Where will the money to provide the facilities and services come from? In countries like the UK, income tax on rental property is mandatory. Even those who live in their own homes (both urban and rural) pay a mandatory council tax of about GBP 130 (about Ksh17,000) per month. That is how they are able to maintain their roads, collect garbage etc. Those facilities in other countries that we always envy are paid for by their tax paying citizens. We do not lack services because of tax evasion, it is because of mismanagement and corruption. Compare with countries like Finland where PAYE can go as high as 55%,..those guys are OK with that arrangement because that money is put to proper use. A corrupt govt whose leaders themselves don't pay any on their extravagant renumeration lose moral justification to impose more tax on its citizens. I WOULD CHEAT if I had the properties. What do you imagine will happen with the new monies collected?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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jaggernaut wrote:If the city council and other councils have been able to collect taxes (aka licenses/fees) from both formal and informal businesses including hawkers and mama mboga, then it would be laziness on the part of KRA to say that it is not able to collect tax on any property - formal or informal. Maybe they should contract kanjo to collect the funds for them.
BTW Kenya Power, Nairobi water etc collect their dues every month from all these properties, both formal and informal. Maybe they should share their database with KRA. there is a difference between tax and business fees or bills, the latter is usually fixed while taxes have some parameters needed for computation - the difficulty is in applying the parameters.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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The basis of this thread are fundamentally wrong. There has been no tax increase! So when someone can post here and say that they will cheat to avoid paying taxes coz HIS gov't is corrupt, exactly what does he expect those in HIS gov't to do? Be honest? Again there has been no tax increase. If, when you got your rental property you did not compute the impact of income tax on you, then you were cheating. Just like the squatters in Syokimau, you were going to pay one day. The time has come so please stop using words like bad for the country, the thread should be moderated etc. You are a cheat and you've been caught. Ripa! When you say that properties with tu rooms will boom again realise that you may be talking about another illegality where you build substandard houses against the building code. I'm sure a4 can educate on those tu rooms you are talking about. Again another illegality to hide from doing the right thing which is to pay tax. When will you stop? In the end mbio za sakafuni huishia ukingoni. So please pay your taxes and stop trying to make this a national crisis or a property investment crisis. Those who've been paying their taxes will feel absolutely no effect with this. Those who are complaining are the tax evaders and they should be treated with the contempt they deserve. It is not a national issue. It is a personal issue which has absolutely no effect on the country other than increasing the national coffers from tax evaders. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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