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Raila is next
Obi 1 Kanobi
#31 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 3:58:00 PM
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@Ngalaka

Any references I have made to the other 3 co-wives of Karua (Saitoti,UK and Ka-loser) are relevant since her resignation impacts them directly.

So this pot will call the kettle black


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Brewer
#32 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 4:09:00 PM
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Obi,you cannot help but drag Kalonzo into this. Raila's complaints on the same day yesterday are along the same line with Karua's and so the question what he is going to do about it.

And some people withheld information from Kriegler- why keep harping on election rigging when you had all the opportunity to say it to him and may be he would have reached a different conclusion. There are people who genuinely believe ODM forced itself into government and i can bet Karua is one of them.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#33 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 4:18:00 PM
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Okay @ Ngalaka and Brewer

Fair enuf,you win,lets just all call it as we see it.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
VituVingiSana
#34 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 4:27:00 PM
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@ngalaka - I am pissed at ka-loser. Why? Coz he sold out Kenyans at large.

- Of course,he has the right to stand for elections. It is a democracy,however flawed. It was the 'spoiler role' that pissed me off. As for kambas,I shall quote a kamba buddy who said - to my shock & chagrin - that kambas will vote overwhelmingly for ka-loser coz he is a kamba.

As for the ethics of our politicians - including ka-loser - they leave a lot to be desired.

*** I have no 'motive' except that whereas RAO & kibz had 'national' support (including home turf advantage),ka-loser was a pure candidate of,for & by the kambas.

As for the savage buffoonery... I agree. That was WRONG and STUPID. What did the luos gain by burning parts of Kisumu? Or the kalenjins by destroying farms in RV? Or the fools in kibera who uprooted the railway lines?

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mali
#35 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 4:34:00 PM
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Quick summary:

Top Kenyan 'gods'

1. Raila Odinga
2. Kalonzo Musyoka
3. Uhuru Kenyatta
4. George Saitoti
5. William Ruto
6. Mwai Kibaki

These 6 fellows LOVE power... tooth or toothless; bark or bite; they better die there than do anything that might have crossed your mind.... Quit/resign/Reform!!!

Truly Kenyan...... All the TIME!

if the incompetent and the reckless compete,the result is a disaster.. MN
tony stark
#36 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 4:37:00 PM
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Can we be objective. We all known tribe plays a role in the way we view our politics but do we have to


take sides purely on tribe
Zealously defend our tribal kinsmen on the basis of tribe only
Insult a whole tribe based on a small group of politicians that is not and can not be representative of the tribe

To the topic. Raila should not be next. Not due to lack of courage but if he steps away from the coalition he is going on the campaign trail,and PNU et al will follow suit. Do we want to campaign for 4 years. The tension ill be so high we will be at war before the end of the 1st year and by the 4 year,assuming kenya still survives we will at the point of no return.
PS: The next clashes will not be about tribes that is how they will start but they will end up being about class. I rue the day that happens.

Lets please show some civility to fellow kenyans. We can always agree to disagree in politics.

SK A.L.U.M.N.I (Alcoholic Liason and Undergarments Manager of Nakedness Internationally)
tony stark
#37 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 5:07:00 PM
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interesting blog post on tribalism in politics.
http://maishinski.blogsp...itics-tribalism-is.html


SK A.L.U.M.N.I (Alcoholic Liason and Undergarments Manager of Nakedness Internationally)
jaykay
#38 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 6:19:00 PM
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RAO is an opportunist,he quits,Ruto remains and RAO is reduced to a tribal chieftain.He'll wait until 2012 is nereby and quit a few months to the poll.He doesnt want to remain a ka small chieftain till 2012

JK
254.co.ke
#39 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 7:06:00 PM
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Raila quiting? That sound bad and good for the country. Good because it may usher a new era for kenya and bad coz the collapse of coalition might throw us back into turmoil. All the same,we cant have a PM complaining of mundane issues-of carpets n substandard dias. Pre-kilanguni he was on telly,tellin us why Muhoho shud be rewarded! Why the change of tune after Makwere 'rewarded' KAA boss? RAO just like MK and 'us-their-blind-supporters' is part of the problem. Let him walk the talk n not mere domo
VituVingiSana
#40 Posted : Monday, April 06, 2009 8:31:00 PM
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For all the good RAO has done,he has been flip-flopping of late. Where are his PRINCIPLES?
At least karua had PRINCIPLES... upende usipende...

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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