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Are you a Landlord?
wilyum
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:05:39 AM
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Njiraini n company are set on their marks to give you run for u r hard earned dimes Sad Sad

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:53:28 AM
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Rental income tax or property sale tax?
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:03:07 PM
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Ala! Watu wamepatikana! But the article only talks about the tax rate on sale proceeds (30 percent). Will tax on rental income attract a similar rate?
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:10:31 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
Rental income tax or property sale tax?

sounds like capital gains tax + rental income tax
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youcan'tstopusnow
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:24:26 PM
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Will he now push for capital gains tax on stocks?Sad
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:39:51 PM
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If he is brave enough, he can tax the rich as in Land Value tax or Idle Land Tax. Any other tax is for the middle income, low income workers who toil their sweat and blood for the money.
He can try some bravado by taxing the rich land owners sitting on idle land who dont have to sweat for their land wealth.
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Jamani
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:45:37 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
If he is brave enough, he can tax the rich as in Land Value tax or Idle Land Tax. Any other tax is for the middle income, low income workers who toil their sweat and blood for the money.
He can try some bravado by taxing the rich land owners sitting on idle land who dont have to sweat for their land wealth.


Thats like.. he holds a gun to his own head and pulls the trigger only the very brave can do that, to test if it works
Jamani
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:48:12 PM
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Going by the need to meet his tax collection target, he might even tax those living in their own houses.. they are also landlords you know...
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:50:19 PM
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@jamani..true..if he can tax the major land bankers, people owning idle land in hundreds of acres, then we can all give him marks for being brave. The list of people owning over 100 acres in Kenya start with the Queen, Catholic church, Kenyatta, Kibaki, Moi e.t.c. If he tries these, i doubt if he can last in that seat for more than 1 hour.
Untill then, he can tax as many as the 8 to 5 workers, flats owners as he wants,it will still not make a positive effect to the economy. The biggest holders of the economy frommoving forward are the land bankers who deny other citizens the ability ot use the land to produce agric,industry,housing e.t.c
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Jamani
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:52:55 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@jamani..true..if he can tax the major land bankers, people owning idle land in hundreds of acres, then we can all give him marks for being brave. The list of people owning over 100 acres in Kenya start with the Queen, Catholic church, Kenyatta, Kibaki, Moi e.t.c. If he tries these, i doubt if he can last in that seat for more than 1 hour.


It will be the last thing he ever does in that office...and after you will see him in court facing malicious charges
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:05:46 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Will he now push for capital gains tax on stocks?Sad


Its not capital gains tax, when you develop or buy and sell goods that are traditionally considered of capital nature, they cease to be considered as capital items and for tax purposes its assumed you are trading in the goods.

Therefore someone consistently developing and selling houses should be taxed like someone buying and selling milk and bread.

Rent tax is just bringing normal income tax defaulters under the bracket, i don't like it at all.
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kyt
#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:10:12 PM
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it being that i am a mortgage holder and the rental income is not even enough to pay the monthly deductions. should i be taxed?
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eco
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:16:02 PM
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One of the options will be to incorporate a company to be the 'Landlord'. Put all your supported expenses there and pay corporate tax (30%) only for profits.
Jamani
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:21:57 PM
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@kyt---- you are a landlord, you should... or incorporate a company and save yourself the trouble....
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:25:48 PM
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See you in court. smile
eco
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:29:29 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
See you in court. smile


Why in court @Cde?
kyt
#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:29:40 PM
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@jamani, my expenses on the invertments are more than the income, in essense i have a paper loss, how can i be taxed. do companies get taxed after making losses?
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eco
#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:35:14 PM
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kyt wrote:
@jamani, my expenses on the invertments are more than the income, in essense i have a paper loss, how can i be taxed. do companies get taxed after making losses?


Corporates are backed by the law, to pay tax after expenses. What about individuals, tax on gross income?
kaifastus
#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:42:14 PM
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brace for rent hikes if implementation is effective..iam concerned about the implementation though since rental tax has always been there.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:00:44 PM
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eco wrote:
kyt wrote:
@jamani, my expenses on the invertments are more than the income, in essense i have a paper loss, how can i be taxed. do companies get taxed after making losses?


Corporates are backed by the law, to pay tax after expenses. What about individuals, tax on gross income?


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