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bkismat
#81 Posted : Friday, May 25, 2012 10:56:09 PM
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Is that CID guy Mr. John Kamau still alive? This one has his hand all around it.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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TAZ
#82 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:05:43 AM
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dossy7 wrote:
If u still want to believe that Kibaki is the saint then think twice.
Lord of Impunity,just watched the untouchables n he sure promoted drugs in our own land.


Let me apply the same Principle people use when it comes to RAO, is MK directly mentioned anywhere in the story? Just like all the other politicians we have, he is not a saint.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#83 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:52:58 AM
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If Aturs confessed to visiting statehouse, then I guess Mungiki did as well. Some bad shit has happened there over the last 10 years.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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mkeiyd
#84 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:17:01 AM
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TAZ wrote:
dossy7 wrote:
If u still want to believe that Kibaki is the saint then think twice.
Lord of Impunity,just watched the untouchables n he sure promoted drugs in our own land.


Let me apply the same Principle people use when it comes to RAO, is MK directly mentioned anywhere in the story? Just like all the other politicians we have, he is not a saint.


@ TAZ,what's your point exactly?
Politicians are not saints, but does that mean we just shut up and not utter a word about there misdeeds?

And now THIS
A guy the president wanted so badly to be AG.

@TAZ, stop being such a sycophant,"see no evil,hear no evil, smell no evil" just coz you support the guy won't take Kenya anywhere.. I voted for the same Kibaki you are defending but the old man has been letting us down in enforcing equity and the rule of law.
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TAZ
#85 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 12:15:48 PM
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@ Mkeiyd....Whatever you are accusing me of now is exactly what we have been trying to tell RAO supporters. People here always want to link MK in any scandal that comes up from the PNU side of the coalition lakini when the same happens in ODM they all come out to defend RAO. Kama ingekuwa a PNU Minister involved in the NHIF scandal, i bet you'd blame everything on MK. This like the 3rd time this drug story is being brought up, i believe its a genuine scandal which needs to be investigated but no one in govt seems concerned (form both sides of the coalition) hata your King. Like i said before MK is no saint, he might or might not be involved

Btw you keep repeating that you voted for MK in 2007 yet you seem to have had issues with him since 2003, infact most of the things you are accusing him of now were there even before the last election. If you ask Kenyan voters/Wazuans they will tell you why they voted for a certain candidate and not the other, you on the other hand have not told us why you did not vote for RAO in 2007, you can't just say ati its because you had MK. There has to be certain issues you had against him, that's how it works.
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mkeiyd
#86 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 1:29:42 PM
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TAZ wrote:
@ Mkeiyd....Whatever you are accusing me of now is exactly what we have been trying to tell RAO supporters. People here always want to link MK in any scandal that comes up from the PNU side of the coalition lakini when the same happens in ODM they all come out to defend RAO. Kama ingekuwa a PNU Minister involved in the NHIF scandal, i bet you'd blame everything on MK. This like the 3rd time this drug story is being brought up, i believe its a genuine scandal which needs to be investigated but no one in govt seems concerned (form both sides of the coalition) hata your King. Like i said before MK is no saint, he might or might not be involved

Btw you keep repeating that you voted for MK in 2007 yet you seem to have had issues with him since 2003, infact most of the things you are accusing him of now were there even before the last election. If you ask Kenyan voters/Wazuans they will tell you why they voted for a certain candidate and not the other, you on the other hand have not told us why you did not vote for RAO in 2007, you can't just say ati its because you had MK. There has to be certain issues you had against him, that's how it works.

@TAZ, if you believe the Artur brothers deeds were suspect and the drugs story, then leave it at that. Just say it was in bad taste for Kibaki and leave it at that.
DON'T try defending the president,not unless you are a hired goon.

About why i didn't vote for RAO in 2007? Read my earlier post[s] why i voted for the old man, and why i'm voting for RAO this time round.
Should i also tell you why i bought a blue ngotha and not a red one? Eeh!


When it comes to me,leave your assumptions a few inches from your keyboard. RAO is not my king.
If Kibaki/Uhuru is a king to you,then i'm sorry. That tells me something about you.

RAO should have fired Nyong'o, he should also have owned up to the Kazi kwa Vijana debacle,that maize scandal? He should have taken some responsibility etc.
RAO is not a saint.

Every leader should be accountable and take responsibility of whatever happens under their watch.
Every one of them.

Happy now?
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kyt
#87 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:02:01 PM
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bkismat wrote:
Is that CID guy Mr. John Kamau still alive? This one has his hand all around it.

he is allegedly the head of fraud investigation in a certain bank~the irony.
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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TAZ
#88 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:05:22 PM
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I'm just tired of the same old politics of blame game. I've said before that we need to get rid of MK, RAO, UK, SKM, WR, MM and their cronies in govt otherwise we'll always be talking of tribalism, Corruption etc regardless of who wins.

Btw, i've already given up on expecting an answer on why you didnt vote for RAO in 2007..... that is the last you'll here of it from me. Take a look at all my posts and tell me where i've expressed any sort of sycophancy towards either MK or UK. IMO apart from the likes of Martha, Pk and Kiyapi the rest cannot convince me that they can deliver the kind of reforms we need as a country.
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mkeiyd
#89 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:21:06 PM
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@TAZ, the problem right now for anyone looking issue based politics is, we lack the numbers to push a Kenneth/Kiyapi.

What can be done?

It sucks to compare bad apples and picking the better from the worst. The ugly side of democracy if you ask me.
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kyt
#90 Posted : Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:15:06 PM
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democracy is about electing someone u least dislike.
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