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chiaroscuro
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:22:28 PM
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Roads PS was on Citizen last night and he mentioned that he would be concluding the financing deal for the 15km Uhuru highway overpass today...

Good progress, but this guy makes some interesting case AGAINST the project... RINK: http://architecturekenya...y-recast-by-eric-kigada/
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earthvoice
#2 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:19:12 AM
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"... We now blame the roundabouts for the traffic jams and are planning to get rid of them, something that I consider a big mistake. Roundabouts can function without traffic lights. T-junctions and cross junctions cannot, especially on a multi lane highway..."

"... We seem to put too much stress on private cars as a mode of transport. Children are growing up who have never been in any form of public transport in Nairobi..."

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murchr
#3 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:31:34 AM
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After reading the article i think the architect is stuck in the past. But i agree with him our mode of transportation has to change
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jamplu
#4 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:44:56 AM
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probably that guys business doesn't involve moving around much. we waste so much man hours around these roundabouts.
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chiaroscuro
#5 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:25:26 PM
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jamplu wrote:
probably that guys business doesn't involve moving around much. we waste so much man hours around these roundabouts.


His argument is that if we remove the roundabouts, we are likely to make things worse than they already are.

Secondly, he is wondering the point of building the overpass while the by-passes are expected to do exactly the same function, i.e., remove transit traffic from the city centre.
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itz
#6 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:56:34 PM
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[quote=chiaroscuro]Roads PS was on Citizen last night and he mentioned that he would be concluding the financing deal for the 15km Uhuru highway overpass today...

Good progress, but this guy makes some interesting case AGAINST the project... RINK: http://architecturekenya...-recast-by-eric-kigada/[/quote]


This guy makes a very valid case that the stakeholders in nairobi ought to seriously think about
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Mkimwa
#7 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 9:04:00 AM
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What we need is a rail system.

At the moment, anybody going to/from the airport uses a cab, via msa road (unless coming from eastlands). If we have a working rail system, we minimize the need for road transport while travelling to airport.

I would rather we spend that money on creating a good rail system, At the moment, we are not spending any money on what we really need.
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Torosh
#8 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 9:29:32 AM
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@mkimwa Have you ever asked yourself who are the owners of these Petrol stations, the fleet of matatus/buses that consume this fuel? a rail system will lock this guys out of biz and that is wy we cannot achieve this if those who make the laws have their interest also in these sectors.
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mkeiyd
#9 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:08:40 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
jamplu wrote:
probably that guys business doesn't involve moving around much. we waste so much man hours around these roundabouts.


His argument is that if we remove the roundabouts, we are likely to make things worse than they already are.

Secondly, he is wondering the point of building the overpass while the by-passes are expected to do exactly the same function, i.e., remove transit traffic from the city centre.


Roundabouts take more time to get around than it would in a T junction. The speed and ease at which the car negotiates a roundabout is lower than a T junction. Take Uhuru Highway/Kenyatta Avenue roundabout. If you had cross junction, and you open both sides of Uhuru Highway for the straight moving traffic, compare that to the current situation. Where as in a cross junction traffic will flow straight and smoothly, with the roundabout, you have to negotiate a mini-round before proceeding straight.

The by-passes are taking all that traffic that would otherwise, not be passing thru' the CBD. Does that solve the traffic issues of the guy who lives in Embakasi and works from Kabete.

All the roads/by-passes/over-passes are needed.
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kyt
#10 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:33:13 PM
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rail is the way to go, we can eliminate price hikes and traffic jams for good.
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