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#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:37:15 PM
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KCB should be first. There has been an aggressive campaign to get people to buy EB shares. Why is that so? I see it everywhere.....and this is just one such article.
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murchr
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:39:15 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
KCB should be first. There has been an aggressive campaign to get people to buy EB shares. Why is that so? I see it everywhere.....and this is just one such article.



This was just an analysis no one told u to buy
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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guru267
#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:02:28 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
KCB should be first. There has been an aggressive campaign to get people to buy EB shares. Why is that so? I see it everywhere.....and this is just one such article.


As much as KCB seems to earn huge profits they are not even scraping their full potential.. Banks like equity are very efficient in their operations hence the high ranks...

Put simply if KCB was as efficient as Equity or DTK we would be talking of 21billion PBT last year..
Mark 12:29
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VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:18:30 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Good work, obviously took your time, how come there is no mention of I&M, CBA and Citi banks

Well @hoover wrote: "I've put the NSE-listed banks through the ranking model."

Neither I&M, CBA and Citi banks are listed on the NSE.

FYI: I&M did a private placement in Dec 2010 & is likely to list at some point (when DEG & PROPARCO want to cash in) but will it be in 2012 or (post-elections) 2013?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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mwekez@ji
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:12:50 AM
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last month sib gave a valuation update on kenya banking sector. They said "KCB remains our preferred large-cap (39.9% upside ) while NIC is our preferred small-cap (+116.3% upside)."

http://www.sib.co.ke/media/docs...Sector-VU-11-04-2012.pdf
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mwekez@ji
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:19:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Good work, obviously took your time, how come there is no mention of I&M, CBA and Citi banks

@hoover wrote: "I've put the NSE-listed banks through the ranking model."

I&M did a private placement in Dec 2010 & is likely to list at some point (when DEG & PROPARCO want to cash in) but will it be in 2012 or (post-elections) 2013?


I&M tops all tier 2 banks. It leads NIC, DTB, CFC, CBA et al. Word has it that they are eying SS/RW. Waiting for their Q1 results
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VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:32:29 AM
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What is a Tier-1 Bank?
What is a Tier-2 Bank?
What is a Tier-3 Bank?

Please provide facts/links or other info that verifies the answer (rather than an opinion).

Is it based on asset size?
Who determines it?
What is the cut-off (range) for each tier?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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mwekez@ji
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:33:14 AM
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@VVS

FACT: Bank Supervision Report

http://www.centralbank.go.ke/do...alreports/bsd2010(2).pdf

Note Appendix IV to VIII
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VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:19:42 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
@VVS

FACT: Bank Supervision Report

http://www.centralbank.go.ke/do...alreports/bsd2010(2).pdf

Note Appendix IV to VIII
Thanks. I see it seems to be 'market share' that designates the 'tier'.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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mwekez@ji
#20 Posted : Friday, May 25, 2012 12:07:19 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Good work, obviously took your time, how come there is no mention of I&M, CBA and Citi banks

@hoover wrote: "I've put the NSE-listed banks through the ranking model."

I&M did a private placement in Dec 2010 & is likely to list at some point (when DEG & PROPARCO want to cash in) but will it be in 2012 or (post-elections) 2013?


I&M tops all tier 2 banks. It leads NIC, DTB, CFC, CBA et al. Word has it that they are eying SS/RW. Waiting for their Q1 results


I&M Bank Q1 results are out and they are miles ahead of the pack
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