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gatoho
#571 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:13:52 AM
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ngapat wrote:
I'm in no hurry to sell. puma should be ready to have me as a minority shareholder if they aren't willing to pay me 50bob per share


Ditto, simply cos I buy shares as retirement not to trade
Foresight..
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youcan'tstopusnow
#572 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:57:50 AM
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selah wrote:
I suspect KK is behind this suspension.They fear we wuld make alot more from speculation than from PUMA and that sickens me.

:-o
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youcan'tstopusnow
#573 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:12:51 PM
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And if KK is delisting, why is Segman still relinquishing the Chairman's role? Ama atairudia baadaye. Hehe
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accelriskconsult
#574 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:43:43 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And if KK is delisting, why is Segman still relinquishing the Chairman's role? Ama atairudia baadaye. Hehe




An MD who chairs the board of the company he runs is a dangerous proposition to shareholders and an affront to good corporate governance.

The CMA dropped the ball big time in allowing his continued stay as chairman.

Puma know better and that is why he has to resign the chairmanship.
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Aguytrying
#575 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:49:34 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Which company took 8 years? EAPI?

Did minority s/holders get dividends in those 8 years?
What is the 'new' buyout price vs the price offered 8 years ago?


Yes it was EAPI. Just found it. sinanga uongo, its easy for me to say "i dont know"smile

The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Aguytrying
#576 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:55:11 PM
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Finally guys are catching on to the share swap idea. I wondered to myself.
" As a top shareholder, would i be fully compensated for KK future gains in monetary terms alone?"
My answer was "No". Unless the deal was too too good.
Segman maintaining one post is the biggest hints of this deal.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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mozenrat
#577 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:18:06 PM
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BTW what would happen if a shareholder rejected PUMA's offer for his/her shares?
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VituVingiSana
#578 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:11:25 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And if KK is delisting, why is Segman still relinquishing the Chairman's role? Ama atairudia baadaye. Hehe


An MD who chairs the board of the company he runs is a dangerous proposition to shareholders and an affront to good corporate governance.

The CMA dropped the ball big time in allowing his continued stay as chairman.

Puma know better and that is why he has to resign the chairmanship.
It does not matter to Puma as a private firm but typically the major s/holder wants to keep an eye on things... If Puma does an IPO, then it will matter
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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guru267
#579 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:21:41 PM
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Jamani wrote:
what could prevent them from selling the company at 50, then stating that they agreed at 17/- or make them(minority) happy say 22/- manager their expectations by giving leads through the lead brokers that the fair value is 17 pay make-up of 5 and the minority will sing your praises.


This would be misrepresentation and fraud.. I doubt Puma directors would risk jail time and damaged reputations just to swindle KK minority holders..
I mean how does it benefit Puma if theyve already paid 50bob for 80% Of the shares to try and con the minority??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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VituVingiSana
#580 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:36:07 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Jamani wrote:
what could prevent them from selling the company at 50, then stating that they agreed at 17/- or make them(minority) happy say 22/- manager their expectations by giving leads through the lead brokers that the fair value is 17 pay make-up of 5 and the minority will sing your praises.

This would be misrepresentation and fraud.. I doubt Puma directors would risk jail time and damaged reputations just to swindle KK minority holders..
I mean how does it benefit Puma if theyve already paid 50bob for 80% Of the shares to try and con the minority??
If Kestrel has indicated that it's Fair Value is between 20-22 then that's where the buy-out price will be!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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