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Obi 1 Kanobi
#11 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 2:45:54 PM
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In fact looking at the contents in the link provided by Jamplu makes for very disappointing reading.

There is not a single substance to back up all the rhetoric and colourful headlines.

I think the vision is just that at this stage, A VISION.
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jamplu
#12 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 3:28:12 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
In fact looking at the contents in the link provided by Jamplu makes for very disappointing reading.

There is not a single substance to back up all the rhetoric and colourful headlines.

I think the vision is just that at this stage, A VISION.



@Obi i wish their performance contracts could be public not sure whether they are!
If all those campaigning to be presidents would at least commit and highlight what they would be doing within a given period then it would be a bit better every kenyan is hoping we won't have someone who will reverse the process.
Ric dees
#13 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 3:44:51 PM
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..@Obi i stopped reading that report as soon as it came off Mckinsey's press in my humble opinion then it just could not work still waiting to be proved wrong!

I think this is where i differ i think times have changed if the recent French election is anything to go by what do the masses want? This projects with "fancy" abreviations mean nothing to my mum and her ilk and we all know thats where the electorate is, so if an aspirant will campaign for the "latte" sipping crowd in Wazua and elsewhere i suggest he hangs his political strategist.

Simple ideas win elections rem "yes we can" hapana LAPSET,Konza,Lamu port and the likes.As Francoise Holland said if he is made president he will tax anyone earning more than $1M 75% and you wonder why the hordes of jobless youth voted for him?? 90% of them do not understand socialist principles in the first place! but that was enough.

Mimi nikiulizwa, (wachana na story za manifesto which have have been drafted by guys who have made a career out of getting degrees)get them all together on 3 debates aired nationwide on TV and Radio and have an audience that is representative of the voters from Turkana to Cattle rustlers to MIT graduates to mboches, watu wa ma3 et al and ask them very basic questions ie to the most technical without the aid of spin doctors we will surely see who is bluffing!! and might just might we may see the future of these great land.

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murchr
#14 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 5:24:13 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
2012 wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
The candidate must use the Kibaki blueprint to sell his agenda.



Personally I don't think we need a 'wanna be' Kibaki. We already have a guide that is Vision 2030. We need someone who can give us a 5 and 10yrs SMART plan in line with 2030 so that if he doesn't meet the short-term (5yrs) plan we fire him.


This vision 2030 thing is all talk and no action, can someone point me to where one can get the year on year metrics. For example, what are we supposed to achieve this year, or what have we achieved since it was launched, or how much progress have we made since it was started, are we ahead of schedule or behind, etc.



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murchr
#15 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 5:28:43 PM
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Ric dees wrote:

..@Obi i stopped reading that report as soon as it came off Mckinsey's press in my humble opinion then it just could not work still waiting to be proved wrong!

I think this is where i differ i think times have changed if the recent French election is anything to go by what do the masses want? This projects with "fancy" abreviations mean nothing to my mum and her ilk and we all know thats where the electorate is, so if an aspirant will campaign for the "latte" sipping crowd in Wazua and elsewhere i suggest he hangs his political strategist.

Simple ideas win elections rem "yes we can" hapana LAPSET,Konza,Lamu port and the likes.As Francoise Holland said if he is made president he will tax anyone earning more than $1M 75% and you wonder why the hordes of jobless youth voted for him?? 90% of them do not understand socialist principles in the first place! but that was enough.

Mimi nikiulizwa, (wachana na story za manifesto which have have been drafted by guys who have made a career out of getting degrees)get them all together on 3 debates aired nationwide on TV and Radio and have an audience that is representative of the voters from Turkana to Cattle rustlers to MIT graduates to mboches, watu wa ma3 et al and ask them very basic questions ie to the most technical without the aid of spin doctors we will surely see who is bluffing!! and might just might we may see the future of these great land.


Do you think they would agree to be dressed down as people who have nothing in btn their heads? If anything they should have started the process in the counties
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#16 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 6:13:22 PM
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murchr wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
2012 wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
The candidate must use the Kibaki blueprint to sell his agenda.



Personally I don't think we need a 'wanna be' Kibaki. We already have a guide that is Vision 2030. We need someone who can give us a 5 and 10yrs SMART plan in line with 2030 so that if he doesn't meet the short-term (5yrs) plan we fire him.


This vision 2030 thing is all talk and no action, can someone point me to where one can get the year on year metrics. For example, what are we supposed to achieve this year, or what have we achieved since it was launched, or how much progress have we made since it was started, are we ahead of schedule or behind, etc.



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Provide link, might it be the empty debe provided by Jamplu
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Intelligentsia
#17 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 6:18:08 PM
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Vision 2030 is a not-so-original doc, having been initially done as one of those Sessional Papers done by Kibs, Tom Mboya and Obama Snr in the late 60s, and merely rehashed to suit modern times. It is not a perfect plan but is Kenya's best vehicle/ springboard to join the ranks of the middle income countries.
The problem is not the vision but the execution. We have very high execution risk for most of our projects - si we even return unutilised funds to Treasury n donors year in year out?

We must avoid just criticising and stopping at that but instead go the extra step to critically review such plans (Vision 2030) with a view to making them actually work.
For instance, I always think we should have somehow anchored Vision 2030 implementation in the new kanstitushon, complete with milestones and dates for achieving these plus the repercushions to the 3 arms of govt for not achieving these milestones - as serious as the laws to be enacted by parliament failing which it would stand dissolved. Thus Kib's successor would have no choice but to implement the vision. all political parties would have no choice but to ensure their manifestos accordingly vision 2030 implementation.
my 2 cents.


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