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pops
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:28:40 PM
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i am really frustrated, i have built up my shop over the last 10 years through sheer hard work and sweat and today i had to part with kshs 35k to a kra inspector for a 15 minute compliance check. with the current economy it takes me over a month to earn the 35k at times and this thief made it in no time! my fault? apparently my etr machine use was not proper! i issue a etr with all sales and keep z reports properly because i fear kra people. but after the kra guy checked everything and could not find a fault he told me to give some tkk and he would overlook things. i told him that nothing doing my business was comlpliant and i would not pay a single cent as it is theft and i cant afford it! in response he removed a "intention to prosecute" kra form, and filled it saying i had contravened section 7, paragraph 6 of vat act and would need to appear for a hearing next week at kra offices. he said o was not issuing proper etr receipts and the fine for my offense was 500k and it was my choice to give him 50k or pay full fine. after much consultation with my fellow shop owners i was advised to negotiate and pay otherwise it could become a big thing as this people have powers and they can gang up at me at hearing. i negotiated payment to 35k but it really pained me to give it to him. it was my hard work for 2 months. please advise if there is anything we can do to prevent this extortion from kra?
Scar
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:40:16 PM
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with njiraini in place i doubt whether the guy can survive, report the dude anonymously through complaints and compliments section in their website,or kaca, hope u got the name etc
Alternatively if in nairobi just state which station your business falls under i.e North,South,West or East.
Smoke the guy out!!!!!
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alma
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:57:36 PM
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pops...post his name here. i promise you it will pain him more than it pains you now. Go to tweeter do the same thing. you don't have to give your details...Just the story and his name...let him sweat instead.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:18:42 PM
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Those guys sometimes they just want to harrass you for nothing. Last time a buddy of mine came with a car registered in Rwanda and he overstayed by 3 days and as it always happens thats the day they will stop to check your docs. They told him many things how they will report that he wanted to evade tax and change number plates here. The guy told them he is paying no bribe they can take him to the commissioner general. As usual the car was impounded and he took his papers to KRA. They took him round and round and slapped him with abill of 1.5m saying that since the car overstayed he is obliged to pay this as import tax on top of that they added a fine of 300k as they said its the fine for the car being in kenya illegally. The guy went up to the director and gave him all the bills slapped on him and told him look, I am an investor in rwanda and i have no intention of relocating to kenya soon, my car is LHD that means i cannot even try to register it in kenya. These are tickets i used when i went back to rwanda for an urgent meeting with clients. How was i supposed to pay for the extension when am out of country. The director called those guys gave them some ethical msomo told the guy to renew the EAC customs paper and move on. He only paid 25k for the process including late payment but he lost a full day
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#5 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:39:13 PM

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Really sad but pops expose him here..
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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:54:29 PM
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This are the kind of guys who make u feel ashamed of being a kenyan. I hope he gets caught in his thievish game and i hope someone has the nerve to roast him. If i had the beliefs of some people i'd probably find a way to make the KRA guy's tummy swell until he returns the 35k to me.
chemos
#7 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 9:39:55 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
This are the kind of guys who make u feel ashamed of being a kenyan. I hope he gets caught in his thievish game and i hope someone has the nerve to roast him. If i had the beliefs of some people i'd probably find a way to make the KRA guy's tummy swell until he returns the 35k to me.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly josiah i thought u are saved.. sasa hi maneno ya karumanzila inatokea wapi..

Pops if u can send njiraini an email with ur complaint and see how fast the guy will be roasted..
am sure kuna mtu hapa wazua anaweza pata email add yake..
pops
#8 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 10:12:26 AM
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thank you all for yr input. i do have his name and designation and where he is based. it would be my pleasure to plaster the details on this forum, but the problem is i have mentioned details of when and how much i gave him so he will know its me who is behind this. it could cause more problems for me later on. u know they are like the police who work as a team. you try and fry one and the whole department guns for you as ur messing with their side incomes. i will try and post an anonymous complaint but would appreciate if anyone can le me know the right email/ tel contact i can use.
vky
#9 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 11:06:24 AM
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@pops, if i were in your position i wouldnt have parted with the 35k in the instance rather i would have taken my chances at the kra hearing if all my dealings are tax compliant because at a hearing every detail for and against you will be scrutinized and the officer involved would have been left with mud on his face
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#10 Posted : Friday, May 11, 2012 11:11:40 AM
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Pops the cost of inaction is greater. This guy will come and harass the rest of us. Please dont let fear rule over you.
I was in a similar situation with KIPI. Wanted to register trademark. Trademark official asked for bribe, I declined. He frustrated all my efforts. I took the case to KACA, guy was busted. Thereafter KIPI MD personally handled registration of my trademark
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