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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@Manyala and the rest, did you at any moment believe Musalia? He played politics. He knew he could not make it in ODM. He could not beat RAO in nominations. He wanted the big seat and he knew the big names outside ODM were united in opposing RAO. He knows UK and Ruto are hague bound and may need to entrust their support with someone they trust. He had also observed how much he was being demeaned-being asked to vie for Nbi governor. He had to look for excuses to free himself from Raila. I am happy to see this happen to Raila. He wrecked FORD-K, KANU and later NARC in similar fashion. Malipo ni hapa hapa tu duniani.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:@Manyala and the rest, did you at any moment believe Musalia? He played politics. He knew he could not make it in ODM. He could not beat RAO in nominations. He wanted the big seat and he knew the big names outside ODM were united in opposing RAO. He knows UK and Ruto are hague bound and may need to entrust their support with someone they trust. He had also observed how much he was being demeaned-being asked to vie for Nbi governor. He had to look for excuses to free himself from Raila. ......now who really want's the Ocampo two to be barred from vying???.....Is is the PM or the likes of MM, SKM, EW......et al!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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"Mudavadi has been a very good student" words by RAO
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/22/2010 Posts: 510 Location: De egg
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Im still surprised to hear the few remnants in ODM chest thumb that their party is set to win. Simple logic shows that at least three quarters of their support blocks are gone . Unless ODM has other ways of winning an election i dont see them going past the first round. Wake up. Peace be with you
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Not my words, but interesting thoughts. Quote:In the words of Socrates I ask, are good deeds in ODM good because the are willed by RAO, or are they willed by RAO because they are good?
When Ruto was in ODM, he was our man, when he differed on the process of eviction from Mau forest citing provision of altenate homes before eviction he became a rebel, when he said lets change parts of the constitution that are likely to bring a problem he became a Moi orphan, when Balala was around he was the big man from the coast and Ali Hassan Joho was a drug peddler, when he differed and supported Ruto and uhuru over the ICC HASSAN Joho became the saint and he became a traitor. When musalia supported Raila he was the best from western, when he suggested a nomination process that was detrimental to Raila’s Bid he became the coward, when he moved out he has become a loser,
In the words of Socrates I ask, are good deeds in ODM good because the are willed by RAO, or are they willed by RAO because they are good?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Lolest! wrote:Not my words, but interesting thoughts. Quote:In the words of Socrates I ask, are good deeds in ODM good because the are willed by RAO, or are they willed by RAO because they are good? Nice one LOLest. Also remember, if they appoint people from various places, they are promoting regional balance. If others do the same, they are a collection of tribal heads! Tafakari haya! Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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maligumu wrote:Im still surprised to hear the few remnants in ODM chest thumb that their party is set to win. Simple logic shows that at least three quarters of their support blocks are gone . Unless ODM has other ways of winning an election i dont see them going past the first round. Wake up. and so who is winning?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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cemetery dossier is about to be unleashed .... I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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digitek1 wrote:cemetery dossier is about to be unleashed .... Won't be a wise move for ODM to start throwing stones as they're in the same glass house.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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2012 wrote:digitek1 wrote:cemetery dossier is about to be unleashed .... Won't be a wise move for ODM to start throwing stones as they're in the same glass house. Someone today reminded me of Goldenberg!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:2012 wrote:digitek1 wrote:cemetery dossier is about to be unleashed .... Won't be a wise move for ODM to start throwing stones as they're in the same glass house. Someone today reminded me of Goldenberg! ...and maize scandals which is starting to crop up again in the form of 17b
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:Not my words, but interesting thoughts. Quote:In the words of Socrates I ask, are good deeds in ODM good because the are willed by RAO, or are they willed by RAO because they are good?
When Ruto was in ODM, he was our man, when he differed on the process of eviction from Mau forest citing provision of altenate homes before eviction he became a rebel, when he said lets change parts of the constitution that are likely to bring a problem he became a Moi orphan, when Balala was around he was the big man from the coast and Ali Hassan Joho was a drug peddler, when he differed and supported Ruto and uhuru over the ICC HASSAN Joho became the saint and he became a traitor. When musalia supported Raila he was the best from western, when he suggested a nomination process that was detrimental to Raila’s Bid he became the coward, when he moved out he has become a loser,
In the words of Socrates I ask, are good deeds in ODM good because the are willed by RAO, or are they willed by RAO because they are good?  Interesting read and very true for any objective person Lolest.But do also appreciate the same applies to the other side of the divide.Ruto and MM were demonised when they were staunch RAO henchemen,infact i rem PNU mps swearing never to work with that murderer(sic) Ruto in the same cabinet on formation of the grand coalition Cabinet,Pliz educate me,What has since changed to make him a saint,youthful team player et al.Mudavadi has always been branded a sorry looser whos career is to follow RAO blindly and EW the guy to beat in western n now all and sundry are singing his praises how he is a sober leader.Kenyan politics stupid!!!! The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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Choice of party was spot on!
Downside was choosing to identify with G7
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@keraka, hakuna vita. I'm sorry I touched a raw nerve somewhere. Siasa is a game of convenience. Moi was with UK,RAO,MM,WSR,SKM, in 2002. He never appeared evil to any of them then. When Kanu was removed, UK and WSR remained with baaba defending him against any attacks by the new govt. In the 2005 referendum, Moi reunited with his boys. They were now ALL defending Moi against any attacks and attempts by the YES team to silence him. In 2007, Moi decided to back Mwai. His 2002 team disagreed with his decision(except UK) and went elsewhere. The same fellows were now too happy to remind him that he was in retirement and this should shut up. Kiraitu, who had in 2005 warned Moi to keep away campaigns or have his allowances withdrawn, went mute. In 2010, Moi joined the NO team with WSR. The rest of the team was in the YES camp. Again his former disciples, who had once defended him, reminded him that he was retired! So relax. I'm sorry that I have touched ODM and Raila. But don't take it too seriously.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/13/2010 Posts: 869 Location: Nairobi
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Still looking for a presidential candidate.. ....above all, to stand.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:@keraka, hakuna vita. I'm sorry I touched a raw nerve somewhere.
Siasa is a game of convenience. Moi was with UK,RAO,MM,WSR,SKM, in 2002. He never appeared evil to any of them then.
When Kanu was removed, UK and WSR remained with baaba defending him against any attacks by the new govt.
In the 2005 referendum, Moi reunited with his boys. They were now ALL defending Moi against any attacks and attempts by the YES team to silence him.
In 2007, Moi decided to back Mwai. His 2002 team disagreed with his decision(except UK) and went elsewhere. The same fellows were now too happy to remind him that he was in retirement and this should shut up. Kiraitu, who had in 2005 warned Moi to keep away campaigns or have his allowances withdrawn, went mute.
In 2010, Moi joined the NO team with WSR. The rest of the team was in the YES camp. Again his former disciples, who had once defended him, reminded him that he was retired!
So relax. I'm sorry that I have touched ODM and Raila. But don't take it too seriously.
 At Lolest kweli hakuna Vita.If you re read my statement nowhere have i appeared to argue like a Railla maniac.point is its all the same forest and the same same monkies.lets not try to sanitise some coz we hate one.You get the drift. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Ms Mkenya wrote:Still looking for a presidential candidate.. Ditto...so hard to find a decent one amongst the morons running! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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kollabo wrote:Choice of party was spot on!
Downside was choosing to identify with G7 The only way he can challenge RAO is through the G7....otherwise he'll just be another Waweru Ngethe in the next elections!
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:Ms Mkenya wrote:Still looking for a presidential candidate.. Ditto...so hard to find a decent one amongst the morons running!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Dash wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Ms Mkenya wrote:Still looking for a presidential candidate.. Ditto...so hard to find a decent one amongst the morons running! I always apply 'Lesser of two d/evils' principle when I get to this point. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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