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K-Rep Bank Registers losses,is Equity next?
Tusker Baridi
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:54:00 PM
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K-Rep and Equity both have similar business models,is it right to assume that since K-Rep recorded a loss so will Equity?
Mainat
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:05:00 PM
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TB-you can do better than this. Have a look at both their accounts and you'll have the 411. But to summarise,both had NPLs due to PEV na kadhalika in 2008. One could absorb the NPLs better than the other. If JM's bank has a bad or untrue model,tutanjua now its in Ug in a big way.



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jammo
#3 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 4:33:00 AM
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Perception that i'm 'emotionally' too attached to Equity prevents possibility of bein seen as objective..so i limit my comment to this...check the figures out urself. Just because both operate under same segment doesn't mean they apply same policy nor that they experience the same woes. Stanchart reported a decline in profits in the same year all other listed banks reported double digit or better profits. You'd be better comparin krep to faulu kenya n others more comparative to it. Equity n Family have gone into full bankin thus capacity to mitigate against micro-finance woes.. Just saying.

DISCLAIMER: This is the opinion of one Jammo,CFA,CPA,Opinionated and Loud,based in nairobi. Whilst care has been taken in compiling the data to be as most factual n logical,he doesn't accept any responsibility of accuracy or completeness of info contained herein..neither does he purport to be a genius!
Wendz
#4 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 5:00:00 AM
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@Tusker

Wacha porojo...... You cant compare K-rep with Equity at all... see the outlets Equity has,its diversity in products and now expanding into the region.... Its presence to the locals and the market share is currently holding... aaaiii,yawa TB?

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Jitahidi
#5 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 5:44:00 AM
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K-rep's market share was absorbed by equity. They cannot compete with equity anymore. Further the management at Krep is very rigid unlike Equity.

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McReggae
#6 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 5:49:00 AM
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jammo here I have to agree with you,k-rep is not comparable to EB,EB is a phenomenon in Kenya,E. Africa and even in the world stage. Personally I know very little about this K-rep bank I must confess!!!

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ecstacy
#7 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 6:59:00 AM
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Tusker Baridi,I get your concern if that is what it is...summary of this thread is that you need to do your homework on K-Rep before making such comparisons. My friend,the details are in the public domain...if you doubt the public domain...Stanford & Harvard etc are studying Equity's banking model..their results when out will be of interest to all.
Waria
#8 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:29:00 AM
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The Krep chairman attributes their massive loss to hiring elite bankers from a leading bank (stanchart? hehehe) to run what is basically a sawdust-on-the floor,muddy boots enterprise

He even goes ahead to say that the managers 'have never been rained on'

Incomparable to equity at all fronts since EQ is no longer just a MF instituition


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mukiha
#9 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:41:00 AM
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@Tusker B

Can one also argue thus: 'Zain Kenya records Sh7B loss,SCOM is next'?

Having similar model does not mean similar success rate. Success depends on implementation.

And by the way...Equity and K-Rep do NOT have similar models!!!!
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Jitahidi
#10 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:42:00 AM
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Further,the managers who were incharge of micro-finance business in Krep for many years are now working in Equity Bank. That speaks volume.

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The General
#11 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:34:00 AM
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would it be false to say Equity and K-rep have similar risk appetites?

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mwanahisa
#12 Posted : Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:42:00 AM
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EB has certainly evolved from MF to all inclusive banking. It's risk tolerance appeears to be a lot higher than that of other banks in the region - which comes at a price but they get well compnsated for it.

On a different note - Where (and when) did K-REP publish its 2008 Full Year results. Other than the story in the paper,I didn't actually see the results. I would like to see them and analyse them in greater detail. The last results on their website are those for 2006 which gives you an indication of their effeciency levels!




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