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New NHIF rates now see wazuans losing Kes,2,000 p.m.
kyt
#41 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 11:43:24 AM
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@pariah, and who tells u that the middle class even use the crappy 350 shilling cover by NHIF? i have been contributing 320 for 4 yrs now and have never benefited from it. what happens to the civil servants whose medical allowance was scrapped? will they also be deducted?
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theman192000
#42 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 11:48:44 AM
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pariah wrote:
the entire middo crass misses the point, what kind of healthcare do u expect for 350 bob?


You may also be missing another point. The 350 (sic) is not used for the development of healthcare infrastructure. My understanding is that this responsibility falls under the ministry of health.
kyt
#43 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 11:49:16 AM
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@pariah, and you know what the civil servants were allocated (by the same NHIF)? sijui ati kawangware health centre, ati clinix ati meridian. mind you these are Centres that dont have branches in the county!! is this the same treatment the other guys will be subjected to? sigh!!
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theman192000
#44 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 11:53:08 AM
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kyt wrote:
@pariah, and who tells u that the middle class even use the crappy 350 shilling cover by NHIF?


From my earlier post you will note that the middle class (indeed all NHIF members) benefits by getting a rebate of 1,700/- per day for inpatient care regardless of whether you are admitted in a public or private hospital or whether you are paying cash or using a private HMO scheme.
pariah
#45 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:10:10 PM
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theman192000 wrote:
pariah wrote:
the entire middo crass misses the point, what kind of healthcare do u expect for 350 bob?


You may also be missing another point. The 350 (sic) is not used for the development of healthcare infrastructure. My understanding is that this responsibility falls under the ministry of health.



The use of sic can be seen as an example of the linguistic device of appeal to ridicule, whether intentional or not, because it highlights perceived irregularities. The application of sic with intent to disparage has been called the "benighted use" because it creates a "false sense of superiority" in its users.

Sounds like typical nairobi middo crass
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kyt
#46 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:18:32 PM
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@pariah, i have never benefited from that 1,700 myself. what makes u think that i will benefit from the new rates, what if dont get admitted, i get zero benefit right? crap!!!
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Impunity
#47 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:25:30 PM
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pariah wrote:
the entire middo crass misses the point, what kind of healthcare do u expect for 350 bob?


Mindro krass dont expect to get anything from their 350, infact their employer caters for them and some even have private arrangement with Resolution health etc.

So for someone who is bila employment or some pretty income, a 350 health insurance is really something great.
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#48 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:33:19 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Mindro krass dont expect to get anything from their 350, infact their employer caters for them and some even have private arrangement with Resolution health etc.


My problem with this thing is that it might get the private medical cover for middle level management and low thrown out in favor of the dreaded NHIF cover.

BBI will solve it
:)
Impunity
#49 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:34:51 PM
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theman192000 wrote:
pariah wrote:
the entire middo crass misses the point, what kind of healthcare do u expect for 350 bob?


You may also be missing another point. The 350 (sic) is not used for the development of healthcare infrastructure. My understanding is that this responsibility falls under the ministry of health.


Me think @pariah was rather de-usered quite soon, his behaviors still belongs to that group.
He has never learned a thing yet!
d'oh! d'oh!
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theman192000
#50 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:50:39 PM
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kyt wrote:
@pariah, i have never benefited from that 1,700 myself. what makes u think that i will benefit from the new rates, what if dont get admitted, i get zero benefit right? crap!!!


NHIF is an insurance fund. You are insuring against hospitalisation. One does not normally benefit from insurance. Otherwise if the fund or indeed any insurance company paid out all premiums to members, it would collapse.
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#51 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:51:02 PM
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This body was created by an act o parliament just like the NSSF.
Currently NSSF under the regulator RBA is forced to declare their income and expenses and of late they have been returning profit.
The public has also been privy to the many bogus investments they undertook and now they are accountable.

Why can't NHIF be regulated by IRC coz this will enable the public to know where our money goes and how the money is used.
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#52 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 12:52:56 PM
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pariah wrote:
the entire middo crass misses the point, what kind of healthcare do u expect for 350 bob?

Come on!! That 350 is from millions of people so don't make it sound like its 'just' 350. So tell me, lets say its 1,000,000 * 350 (of which this midro crass doe'snt even use), you could atleast expect half decent service no?
So am assuming you want to tell us in 5years when they have collected this 2000 from guys, you will come back here and attest that all the middle class will be going to GOK institutes without the morbid fear they wont come out alive due to 'excellent' service?
kyt
#53 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 1:21:51 PM
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@pariah, my question is why am not able to get any cover for outpatient services hata kama ni limited.
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Impunity
#54 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 7:01:46 PM
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kyt wrote:
@pariah, my question is why am not able to get any cover for outpatient services hata kama ni limited.


My question too.
How have they been spending the small money they get?
This blanket assumption that more money will make things good is far fetched and shallow thinking!!!
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wilyum
#55 Posted : Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:41:44 AM
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and the battle continues........



cotu
lexx
#56 Posted : Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:10:49 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:


2,000 from my meagre earning simply means a reduction in SinTertainment: Less bottles and fewer mbuzi to die by my name.
Sad Sad Sad

You are in the privileged group that earns more than 100,000 bob per month. Your worries are not on the basics of life but entertainment!

Thank God for that.


You remind me of Abraham Maslow's hireachy of needs.
Layman
#57 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:51:28 AM
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kyt wrote:
@pariah, my question is why am not able to get any cover for outpatient services hata kama ni limited.

Boss Cover for outpatient exists with our insurance companies (not akina AAR etc), get in touch if you need one.
jerry
#58 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:21:12 AM
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wilyum wrote:
and the battle continues........



cotu

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Tebes
#59 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:54:11 PM
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kyt wrote:
@pariah, and you know what the civil servants were allocated (by the same NHIF)? sijui ati kawangware health centre, ati clinix ati meridian. mind you these are Centres that dont have branches in the county!! is this the same treatment the other guys will be subjected to? sigh!!



If you fall sick in Siaya will you board a Mat (if you will still be able to that is) to go and be treated in Kawangware???Sad Sad Sad
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kyt
#60 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 6:32:07 PM
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@tebes, its crap, just crap and yet they still insist that it is "an excelent" scheme ha!
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