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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,220 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Demand a paltry 7K, most at 13.50 against 1.22M shares on the supply side! You must feel for the guys already locked in. Even more, you must ask yourself if the rights which should start trading in the market will have a negative or positive value! This one i will watch from the periphery! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Should they stop the rights altogether and cite non-approval by UG&TZ? The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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It will be very hard to convince tz given that the price at market is at level with intended rights and the worst yet to come. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Demand a paltry 7K, most at 13.50 against 1.22M shares on the supply side! You must feel for the guys already locked in. Even more, you must ask yourself if the rights which should start trading in the market will have a negative or positive value! This one i will watch from the periphery! Same thoughts,after *rights* issue if in bears, other things remaining constant this share will trade sub 10. Democracy does not belong to the dead
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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githundi wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Demand a paltry 7K, most at 13.50 against 1.22M shares on the supply side! You must feel for the guys already locked in. Even more, you must ask yourself if the rights which should start trading in the market will have a negative or positive value! This one i will watch from the periphery! Same thoughts,after *rights* issue if in bears, other things remaining constant this share will trade sub 10. I rem buying IPO at 11.25 only to dispose later at 7.80(at a loss!). We might be ending there. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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Woi . this one is goin to the dogs !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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QW25091985 wrote:Woi . this one is goin to the dogs ! Going or already there? BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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The period of greatest pessimism has come faster than I thought The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,509 Location: nairobi
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cant touch this!!! DOA [dead on arrival] HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/23/2010 Posts: 868 Location: La Islas Galápagos
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> KQ = Britank > KQ = 14 * Britank (Current / IPO) > KQ = 4.3 / 9 * 14 = 6.7 A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,102 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:The planes should be able to service the debt. The directors must be factoring in stable oil prices and stable ticket prices.. What happens when competition brings ticket prices down and global demand drives oil prices up?? What about austerity in Europe?? All plans have assumptions. KK 'projects' sales volumes yet if oil jumps to $200 then the sales (volume) will drop as people drive less, fly less, etc. Insurance firms 'project' premiums received & payments made. Multiple car accidents, a new disease, etc can increase payments beyond income. Likewise, KQ 'projects' but who knows what will happen? If KES had jumped to 150/- as many predicted then KQ would make much more in KES but now KES is back to 83/- Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2009 Posts: 348
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itz wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Today up 4 percent. From yesterdays close. Don't expect the major shareholders to watch it go to 14.00 lol. This one belongs to sub 10. Hope we don't get here before the new shares start trading! For the speculators, please keep off! And this you can take to the bank! Let the people who want to be heroes keep buying KQ.i have been saying this since the share was 30+ when they announced plans to do a rights issue.This is a massive dilution.Going back to under 10 and it will be hard to move this shares up.Airlines just like utilities(kengen,kplc,part of transcentury) require alot of capital to run. you were all warned.wait for under 10 shortly
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Is there any fool willing to buy rights at 14 when the market offers the same cheaper??is there any careless underwriter who is still willing to burn fingers here? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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i think that kq goofed a lot in this one, you feel for the shareholders a lot LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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This kq's plan should see the ceo kicked out,its the beginning of bankrupsy "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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kyt wrote:i think that kq goofed a lot in this one, you feel for the shareholders a lot Citibank must be now PRAYING for an oversubscription so that they only have to take their underwriting fees and bounce... Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2009 Posts: 312
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guru267 wrote:kyt wrote:i think that kq goofed a lot in this one, you feel for the shareholders a lot Citibank must be now PRAYING for an oversubscription so that they only have to take their underwriting fees and bounce... I predict that there will be massive under subscription by the shareholders save only for the gorvenment and KLM. The rights are too many,maiking it too expensive for such an uncertain venture.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Talking is a waste of time, what you should be doing is looking for an entry point...they're not raising cash to eat...they're raising cash to buy assets.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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I don't envy citibank as the underwriter with the share price currently on a nosedive ready to dip below 14. If the rights are under-subscribed heavily (most likely esp wanjikus) it won't be funny. At this point PPT should be stick saving the price plunge. This is quite an interesting scenario for the KQ rights. I can't recall a share that dipped below the rights price before on NSE - @vvs, @mukiha, @njunge - anyone recall this... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:Talking is a waste of time, what you should be doing is looking for an entry point...they're not raising cash to eat...they're raising cash to buy assets. What are you saying? People should stop discussing KQ? I got a good shave on them before i bounced but that's not reason to make me bitter. Let people talk, it breaks no bone and it ain't profanity.
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