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Tragedy of Flight KQ507
chumachumz
#1 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 11:42:40 AM
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http://www.telegraph.co....dy-of-Flight-KQ507.html

If this is true then its very sad..
Mo
#2 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 12:57:03 PM
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pheeew! i just thought KQ had downed another one!
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#3 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 4:54:25 PM
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Chilling story.
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 4:57:07 PM
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What's even worse are the racist comments and ignorance of the readers.

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TAZ
#5 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 5:17:02 PM
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There's a very interesting TV series on Air Crash Investigations, usually airs on National Geographic. The show reviews all the major plane crashes that take place using exclusive reports. ......at some point the did one on the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961 which crashed landed in the Indian Ocean Killing 125 people including Mohamed Amin. The Pilot who survived the crash also gave his side of the story. I wish they could do one on the KQ flight. I'm certain the airplane had a flight data recorder (FDR) and cockpit voice recorder (CVR) which would reveal details of the events immediately preceding the accident....
harrydre
#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2012 5:27:26 AM
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"A summary of the pilot’s proficiency checks in the five years before the crash makes astonishing reading:

- November 2002: “inadequate knowledge of procedures and airplane systems”; deemed unsatisfactory

- August 2003: “urged to be more attentive to checks and provide more consistent briefings”

- February 2004: urged during simulator-training to analyse his failures

- July 2004: “lack of understanding following airplane systems”

- July 2005: deficiencies in his familiarity with airplane systems

- August 2006: “below standard for a captain”; a review of his entire training was necessary “to see if complacency or incompetence is the issue”.

The captain’s overall performance was below average but “acceptable” – the second lowest of Kenya Airways’ four rankings – but there was no evidence he had been re-trained.

The co-pilot, meanwhile, had been “unsatisfactory” in his radiotelephony test in August 2003 and had to re-take it; in September 2005, his instrument rating test was “unsatisfactory” and had to be repeated. "


You simply can't have 2 such men in one plane. it's absolutely professional negligence.


"Delayed on the runway at Douala by thunderstorms, the plane never received final take-off clearance. Just after midnight, it took off anyway. " Another example of professional negligence

i.am.back!!!!
McReggae
#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:29:17 AM
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That story is as one sided as they can ever come!!!!
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2012 9:38:06 AM
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Sad to know how the pilot's 10 tonne ego lead to the crash.
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selah
#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:23:35 AM
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If you read the book outliers there is a story about a korean and Columbian air crashes they are more or less similar to this KQ scenario.

The writer asserts that for a typical air crash the pilot, his co-pilot and the flight engineer makes at least 7 errors before crashing and in most cases The airline itself is to blame for overlooking glaring warnings over time.Reading the article above it just confirms Outliers assertion
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McReggae
#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:33:22 AM
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selah wrote:
If you read the book outliers there is a story about a korean and Columbian air crashes they are more or less similar to this KQ scenario.

The writer asserts that for a typical air crash the pilot, his co-pilot and the flight engineer makes at least 7 errors before crashing and in most cases The airline itself is to blame for overlooking glaring warnings over time.Reading the article above it just confirms Outliers assertion


...and if you talk with those in the aviation industry, you will realize that the aircraft manufacturers (boeing and airbuses of this world) will do anything possible (and they have the muscle) not to have any blame of the aircraft in the final report, the captain/FO in most cases are always already dead.....no harm in blaming them for everything!!!!
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