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harrydre
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:12:29 PM
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Economic marginalization

Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka, Commissioner Alice Nderitu, Vice-Chairperson Mary Onyango, and NCIC boss Mzalendo Kibunjia after closure of the conference.
Making a report from a meeting held in Nyanza, Peter Wanyande, a commissioner with the Constitution Implementation Commission, said area residents felt they are experiencing economic marginalisation.

"People there say that there are no industries to offer job opportunities and infrastructures have been neglected," reported Prof Wanyande.


Kisumu
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maligumu
#2 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:29:25 PM
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They burn their city and complain loudest . Naomba sirikal watuzaidie . God have mercy .
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essyk
#3 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:37:09 PM
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Why cant they build their own.Must they wait for 'outsiders' to come build industries for them when they already have industrious people from that region?

There are worthy risks to undertake and for me it's not setting up industries in volatile regions where people's reactions to issues both social and political are soo crude and backwards.
Consider the season too.
Work on mentalities first and let people know that destryoing their means of economic gain is like karma.

Hyacinth end products find their way abroad,so does fish,I am sure there's a lot more that the locals leaders can do for them.
Even wangari was carried in a coffin made of hyacinth.
Tunaomba serikali itusaidie mentality.Good luck.
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maligumu
#4 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:31:10 PM
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Is it true that if you don't belong to the right political divide you have to wear an helmet as you walk around the Ciity .alive arrive
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Um Sayala
#5 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:49:50 PM
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It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.
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chiaroscuro
#6 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:57:14 PM
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Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.


Who is building it? GoK or private investor?

If GoK, then you have a point. If private investor, then your point fizzles out.

Still; your point regarding NEP. For many decades this region has been ignored and the results are in plain sight. The misguided logic has been that there is no point in building infrastructure in a place that is not productive.

This is warped logic; the reality is that a region develops because of infrastructure. Look at the map of Kenya and you will see that all development falls within 50km of the Uganda railway. And remember that this railway was built to access Uganda, not Kenya!

But; things are changing (thanks to the Kibaki administration). The tarmac linking Isiolo to moyale has just about 150km to go and the contractor is already on site to complete the job. And this was not part of LAPSET project...

harrydre
#7 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:46:53 PM
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Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.


how come when other tribes move to these so called marginalized areas they quickly pick up and develop until the next General Elections?
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harrydre
#8 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:49:10 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.


Who is building it? GoK or private investor?

If GoK, then you have a point. If private investor, then your point fizzles out.

Still; your point regarding NEP. For many decades this region has been ignored and the results are in plain sight. The misguided logic has been that there is no point in building infrastructure in a place that is not productive.

This is warped logic; the reality is that a region develops because of infrastructure. Look at the map of Kenya and you will see that all development falls within 50km of the Uganda railway. And remember that this railway was built to access Uganda, not Kenya!

But; things are changing (thanks to the Kibaki administration). The tarmac linking Isiolo to moyale has just about 150km to go and the contractor is already on site to complete the job. And this was not part of LAPSET project...



I say we swing the man another term Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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essyk
#9 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:04:11 PM
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It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.


There was a time the coastal people requested Kenyatta for tractors and farm machineries to help them till their land and Kenyatta responded well; he sent Kikuyus in thousands to till the coastal land. So, the land tilling problem was solved in the coast.

If you cannot develop your own land and come up with ways of upgrading munataka nani awafanyie hivyo.If the leaders you elect dont care about you then who do you blame?

Think well and put ur money where it will grow not only in gucci wear,range and runda while back home hakuna piped water.
Its sad to see the resources lying idle while we continue crying serikali.
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nostoppingthis
#10 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 8:20:30 AM
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Why generalize and call a people "punks"?
Um Sayala
#11 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 9:02:55 AM
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harrydre wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.


how come when other tribes move to these so called marginalized areas they quickly pick up and develop until the next General Elections?


@ harrydre. I think your argument is abit warped. seems you've never traveled the depth and breadth of this country. Infrastructure plays a very big role in development of a country. it is never brought by politicians but Govt. There r parts of kenya where pple as old as 20yrs have never seen a tarmarked road.
Come to think of it, why is coffee farmers' debts always waived by the Govt and not cotton or tea for example. Lets address the problem.we at the coast will need our own country as long as we see no need for this Govt.
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chiaroscuro
#12 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 10:58:04 AM
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Um Sayala wrote:
@ harrydre. I think your argument is abit warped. seems you've never traveled the depth and breadth of this country. Infrastructure plays a very big role in development of a country. it is never brought by politicians but Govt. There r parts of kenya where pple as old as 20yrs have never seen a tarmarked road.
Come to think of it, why is coffee farmers' debts always waived by the Govt and not cotton or tea for example. Lets address the problem.we at the coast will need our own country as long as we see no need for this Govt.


Has anyone ever done an opinion poll on this?

Lucid_Iam
#13 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 11:12:30 AM
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Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.

FYI you don't need a lake to harvest fish. Central Province is one of the largest if not the largest producer of fish in Kenya. FACT.

Harrydre, in the interest of cohesion and nationalism please edit the topic name to something more respectful.
Robinhood
#14 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 12:37:03 PM
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Guys, let's not be blind to facts;
After Kenyatta was stoned in Kisumu, he totally ignored the place
After Ochuka and his friends tried the evict Moi from state house in 1982, he had no option but to Fuata nyayo.
These are facts. But that said, the guys resolve every simple political problem with violence. They destroyed their own town during the PEV and when they realized that they had scored a massive own goal, started organizing investor conferences for investors to come back. I just wish them luck. You are either with the king, or against him. If you are against the king, even if you are doing good stuff for them, they will stone you. Just ask Tuju. His mobile clinic is rotting away somewhere...
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
otienosmall
#15 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 4:15:52 PM
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You call grown men Punks!!!! Yawa….. hapa tunaomba serkall!!!Sad
Oaks
#16 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 4:50:48 PM
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Lucid_Iam wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.

FYI you don't need a lake to harvest fish. Central Province is one of the largest if not the largest producer of fish in Kenya.FACT.

Harrydre, in the interest of cohesion and nationalism please edit the topic name to something more respectful.


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Obi 1 Kanobi
#17 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 5:02:09 PM
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Lucid_Iam wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.

FYI you don't need a lake to harvest fish. Central Province is one of the largest if not the largest producer of fish in Kenya. FACT.

Harrydre, in the interest of cohesion and nationalism please edit the topic name to something more respectful.


95% of fish catch in Kenya comes from Lake Victoria, but hey, don't let unnecessary things like statistics get in the way of your arguement, Central produces evrything in Kenya, so why not fish.
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#18 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 5:17:08 PM
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Harrydre...@harrydre...@harrydre...You are on a roll. From RAO to Gor from Gor to Kisumu...where next.
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#19 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 9:54:50 PM
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where is this so called central province..can't seem to see it on the new kenya Atlas
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#20 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 10:06:25 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Lucid_Iam wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
It is true that there is economic marginalization in this country. you just dont want to admit it. look at the coast and see why MRC is springing up. Go to Turkana and see for yourself, NEP etc. why would a fish Processing firm be bulit in Thika and there is no L. turkan, baringo or victoria or in thika. BE REAL and speak the truth. Thats why if MRC at coast is not addressed, its a time bomb buddy.

FYI you don't need a lake to harvest fish. Central Province is one of the largest if not the largest producer of fish in Kenya. FACT.

Harrydre, in the interest of cohesion and nationalism please edit the topic name to something more respectful.


95% of fish catch in Kenya comes from Lake Victoria, but hey, don't let unnecessary things like statistics get in the way of your arguement, Central produces evrything in Kenya, so why not fish.


@Lucid_Iam,
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