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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Cant make up my mind which one is the greatest....
'Bassanga' Otieno
'Çontroller' Murila
'Zamalek' Magongo
'Lule' Ochieng
'T9' Weche
'Bobby' Ogola
'Shoto' Lukoye
Allan Thigo
Peter Arieno
Nahashom Oluoch
Joe Kadenge
Joe Masiga
Mahmoud Abbas
James Siang'a
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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my list pele, maradona, ronaldhinho, messi eto,o LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Cant make up my mind which one is the greatest....
'Bassanga' Otieno
'Çontroller' Murila
'Zamalek' Magongo
'Lule' Ochieng
'T9' Weche
'Bobby' Ogola
'Shoto' Lukoye
Allan Thigo
Peter Arieno
Nahashom Oluoch
Joe Kadenge
Joe Masiga
Mahmoud Abbas
James Siang'a
for me LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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TAZ wrote:@ Masukuma.....Players such as Ronaldo (Brazil) & Muller had very good records for both Club and country...but they are not regarded as Legends, can you remember who scored for Italy in 2006 final? Nowadays CL football dictates how successful you are as a football player. That is why Messi won 2010 Player of the year despite his National Team's poor performance at the WC. He is not just a goal scoring machine but a football genius as well. Rarely is the ball allowed to leave his incredible sphere of influence....its as if its glued to his foot. Teams and managers go out of their way to neutralise the prodigy.
We are already comparing him to football greats at a very young age, we can only imagine what he's yet to achieve. utamsahau tu!! unless he wins the worldcup. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2010 Posts: 266 Location: Nairobi
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When Pele asserts that Messi is yet to prove himself on the national stage, this smacks of sour grapes. One could also argue that Pele never proved himself in Europe and most of his goals were scored in the regional Brazilian leagues.
Also, defenders in Pele's era allowed forwards too much room to showcase their skills, unlike today, where the defending has been refined to an art. The Baresi/Maldini partnership comes to mind. Rio & Vidic would be hardly allow Pele all that room, yet we see Messi run rings around such accomplished defenders week in week out
The world cup is not what it used to be in the '70's and '80's. SA 2010 was an utter snorefest.(The African cup suffers the same affliction). For me, the World Cups pales in comparison to the quality of the Champions League, where Messi continues to make his mark.
I would rate Messi marginally above Maradona, with Pele third.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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masukuma wrote:mkeiy wrote:Soccer is a team sport, i don't expect Messi to win a world cup single-handedly. I never got to see Pele, some snippets of Maradona, but i would not take it from Messi just coz he hasn't won a world cup or clocked 1k of goals. He's phenomenal. i think we are missing the point here...all the above are/were phenomenal players, Wizards, Geniuses. In primary school and high school we used to have a certain wizard with the ball called Ephantus Kariuki Gitiba that guy was one with the ball. but our school was maembe in football and his sole effort could not move us so...he was never discovered. was he phenomenal? yeah, was he a great player - yes. was he the best player in the world...we cannot say - he never had the opportunity to prove himself elsewhere. In order for you to qualify as a great player, you cannot be like Ephantus Kariuki Gitiba...personally very good but with a team that cannot assist you. Messi is the same with Ephantus, his national side is not helping him and he may never win 3 worldcups (ultimate achievement), he may never come close to 1k goals but he is the best of our time...he is the best NOW! we have to wait until he retires before making any ruling but as things stand - he is number 3. Will he like Pele become a legend and be remembered 34 years after his last match? having his name showing up in polls in obscure african forums? Let's wait and see! Masukuma, you were in my high school and you obviously come from Nakuru Town, based on your going to primo with "Kirio". Funny still can't figure out who you are. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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I can not make up my mind between: Karl-Heinz Rummenigge And Harald Anton Schumacher (Harald "Toni" Schumacher) Sorry folks but my interest in Association Football ended with the end of the West Germany National Team. (Football was made in West Germany)
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 784 Location: ant hill - red hill
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Cant make up my mind which one is the greatest....
'Bassanga' Otieno
'Çontroller' Murila
'Zamalek' Magongo
'Lule' Ochieng
'T9' Weche
'Bobby' Ogola
'Shoto' Lukoye
Allan Thigo
Peter Arieno
Nahashom Oluoch
Joe Kadenge
Joe Masiga
Mahmoud Abbas
James Siang'a
---# You failed to mention my favourite; Wilberforce Mulamba The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:mkeiy wrote:Soccer is a team sport, i don't expect Messi to win a world cup single-handedly. I never got to see Pele, some snippets of Maradona, but i would not take it from Messi just coz he hasn't won a world cup or clocked 1k of goals. He's phenomenal. i think we are missing the point here...all the above are/were phenomenal players, Wizards, Geniuses. In primary school and high school we used to have a certain wizard with the ball called Ephantus Kariuki Gitiba that guy was one with the ball. but our school was maembe in football and his sole effort could not move us so...he was never discovered. was he phenomenal? yeah, was he a great player - yes. was he the best player in the world...we cannot say - he never had the opportunity to prove himself elsewhere. In order for you to qualify as a great player, you cannot be like Ephantus Kariuki Gitiba...personally very good but with a team that cannot assist you. Messi is the same with Ephantus, his national side is not helping him and he may never win 3 worldcups (ultimate achievement), he may never come close to 1k goals but he is the best of our time...he is the best NOW! we have to wait until he retires before making any ruling but as things stand - he is number 3. Will he like Pele become a legend and be remembered 34 years after his last match? having his name showing up in polls in obscure african forums? Let's wait and see! Masukuma, you were in my high school and you obviously come from Nakuru Town, based on your going to primo with "Kirio". Funny still can't figure out who you are. I went partly to primo at st xaviers and later menengai primary, I did secondary education at Nakuru High. I cleared in 97, played rugby for Nakuru High and Nakuru RFC before heading for Egerton University. Naks born and raised!! do those give more hints... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:masukuma wrote:mkeiy wrote:Soccer is a team sport, i don't expect Messi to win a world cup single-handedly. I never got to see Pele, some snippets of Maradona, but i would not take it from Messi just coz he hasn't won a world cup or clocked 1k of goals. He's phenomenal. i think we are missing the point here...all the above are/were phenomenal players, Wizards, Geniuses. In primary school and high school we used to have a certain wizard with the ball called Ephantus Kariuki Gitiba that guy was one with the ball. but our school was maembe in football and his sole effort could not move us so...he was never discovered. was he phenomenal? yeah, was he a great player - yes. was he the best player in the world...we cannot say - he never had the opportunity to prove himself elsewhere. In order for you to qualify as a great player, you cannot be like Ephantus Kariuki Gitiba...personally very good but with a team that cannot assist you. Messi is the same with Ephantus, his national side is not helping him and he may never win 3 worldcups (ultimate achievement), he may never come close to 1k goals but he is the best of our time...he is the best NOW! we have to wait until he retires before making any ruling but as things stand - he is number 3. Will he like Pele become a legend and be remembered 34 years after his last match? having his name showing up in polls in obscure african forums? Let's wait and see! Masukuma, you were in my high school and you obviously come from Nakuru Town, based on your going to primo with "Kirio". Funny still can't figure out who you are. I went partly to primo at st xaviers and later menengai primary, I did secondary education at Nakuru High. I cleared in 97, played rugby for Nakuru High and Nakuru RFC before heading for Egerton University. Naks born and raised!! do those give more hints... OK I know you, I had filtered everyone else and was convinced I could place you. now confirmed. Didn't think you were this opinionated!!! Any way, its nice to catch up. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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