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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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@Admin.. can we have statistics on how much RAO is in circulation on this site?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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On Uhuru claiming that RAO is polarizing the country....Matthew 7 v 3-5
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
On maneno za prayer rallies all over the country ...Matthew 6 v 5-8 or Luke 20 v 46-47
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
46 “Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. 47 They devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. These men will be punished most severely.”
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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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Wendz wrote:I am no supporter of Raila, but Raila just said what needed to be said... well, not straight to jail because there has to be trials, but if you have issues to sort out with ICC, please go ahead and sort them out... If you are innocent, you are innocent and you will come back white as snow...... These "prayer meetings" are just vehicles being used to play victims and earn some sympathy votes (knowing how "much" sympathetic we Kenyans are!). But that remains a fact..... its Hague Express, when innocent, we welcome you back with open arms!
Ruto is on record calling the ICC process "a conspiracy". What conspiracy? He voted against a local tribunal when Mutula was killing himself trying to convince him and his "strong pigs supporters" otherwise? Its in public dormain who voted for and against these processes! What did he expect? That it was somebody else in that envelop? Sometimes i ask myself, if it was "Ruto's" supporter, would he be singing the same song? if it was RAO, would it still be a "conspiracy" or would it be "justice"? And who handed the envelop to Koffi and to ICC?
IMHO, If anyone has a case to answer, let them go deal with it... if Ruto and Uhuru have pending cases at the ICC, let them go sort them out first. That's exactly what Raila meant - perhaps the "unpopular" extension that if they are guilty, they may as well be serving their jail term - which didn't go down very well! But all the same, that fact remains, they are "suspects"..... let them go clear themselves first and stop playing victims of some imaginary RAO Conspiracy! I will vote for you!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2011 Posts: 482 Location: Nairobi
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@Wendz,
Ditto. Couldn't have put it any better.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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This is a major indictment against NSIS. What RAO is saying should have been collated and analysed by the Maj. Gen a long time ago. It is all very clear to a B-grade high school student what outcomes UK and WR are driving to, and quite frankly I'm not ready to lock up a hungry me and my family in a drab apartment as marauding youth take over the streets of Nairobi.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/5/2008 Posts: 390
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Lolest! wrote:I am hopeful that the ICC process(whether just or not) will deter politician funded violence. But I highly doubt that this will deter violence. There is little we have done to minimise inter-ethnic hostilities and hatred. People still talk at the top of their voices how tribe X is the problem in Kenya coz they have taken all the land, messed up traffic and increased corruption and engage in prostitution. Or someone on social media posting that a candidate from tribe Y will never make it for the Presidency or that tribe Z is untrustworthy and stupid. With such talk, it is too simplistic to think that the conviction of just 4 guys will give us peace. Infact, even if we try all 20 persons in the Waki list, we would still fight unless we accept each other at the ordinary Kenyan level. I agree with you
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/16/2011 Posts: 196 Location: united states of africa
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[quote=Insurgent] So ..what do you propose? maybe you can enlighten us more on why 'they' are targeting Uhuru Kenyatta.[color=red] ]So ..what do you propose? This is one of our greatest undoing. Someone gives you food for thought and you ask him, 'What do you propose'. If you finally discover that working with the pigs will not end well with you (After learning from history what the consequences are bound to be) do I need to propose to you a solution? Only spoon feed kids should ask such a question cauze they have no capacity to think how to deal with an evident problem. Such kids are evidence of the faulty education system the pigs bestowed on us. why 'they' are targeting Uhuru Kenyatta So that they can put in place their preferred black pig. A pig that would ensure the monkeys are born with a 40k loan on their heads and die having accumulated more loans for future generations to carry. Uhuru is likely to follow Kibaki's policy of not giving a hoot about the pigs when it comes to the burdensome loans. He would go with what makes economic sense. (An economist will remain one for life). Have you ever thought how stupid it is to be trading with your former Master who had enslaved you? And we claim to be proud members of 'the common wealth'. Which common wealth are we talking about here? [/quote Insurgent, Have you ever read Tabitha Kanogo's book? Me thinks that you have read it hence your wise opinion. Energy.
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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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Anyone complaining about pig this pig that is an idiot, I declare that today, the pigs are probably tired of feeding the monkey and they want a pig a monkey that can help feed the other monkeys, how about that? @ Insurgent, stop feeding your mind with stupid books atleast learn some investments or something, you're full of nonsense idiologies.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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selah wrote:Raila has just taken advantage of the situation which invariably was created by the suspects..walijikaanga na mafuta yao wenyewe Every sane Kenyan wants some of the suspects jailed.
ditto @wendz you are the most level headed wazuan ever, i wish we can all see past the tribal allegiance even for just a second before snapping back to the cucoon
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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ecstacy wrote:Since we prefer the truth be told, here we go. If that ODM Secretariat statement has his endorsement, which it very likely does, lets just say RAO has goofed big on this one.
As the incumbent and leading Presidential contender going into the election, he looses shine as the father statesman, which he so aspires to be, by polarising the nation with such uncalled for inciting statements, basically Kenyans, please detain my closest competition because of x and y. This just lends credence to the claim, true or otherwise, that the foreigner friendly RAO has been seeking to have the ICC detain Uhuru and Ruto.
This is on the back of his close confidantes indicating ODM is Raila and Raila is ODM.
Learn from Kibaki, many times as head of the Kenyan state, silence is golden.
At this moment of transition in our history, the next President needs to be one of strong character as hard decisions are made and still remain one who is a unifying factor in common purpose.
From Western or Nyanza, is it really RAO?... i think enough with a$$ kidding, if there is evidence anyone planned violence just get them now take them away and try them. I will respect the leader or leaders that have balls to tell it like it is. I am with Martha Karua and Rao on that. PK loses points on this, he could be the next Wiper
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