Rank: Member Joined: 6/18/2008 Posts: 28
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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SHAME TO KQ......What would 6m do to KQ books?What a silly way of honouring a long time serving employee?What a silly way of seeking cheap negative publicity?... Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Just imagine...And KQ has her 8m...and since KQ has refused to clear the bills all the family is asking for is for KQ to clear the bill with her benefits!!! Very very cruel!!! I am sure Naikuni is not aware of this!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Then someone thick is stupid enough to ask for a burial permit while the body is still lying in the mortuary......HOW? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/11/2009 Posts: 302
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Njung'e wrote:SHAME TO KQ......What would 6m do to KQ books?What a silly way of honouring a long time serving employee?What a silly way of seeking cheap negative publicity?...
While I don't like to see people suffer, I tend to differ - In fact I disagree with you.
If the illness that led to her death was occupational in nature, then maybe the family can stake a claim fo payment of medical bills and evn more damages. However, if it was illness that would have caught her regardless of whether she worked for the hospital, jobless or otherwise then the family should blame itself for not keeping a tab on the limits of the group medical insurance afforded to her her employer.
second, there is a procedure for paying out terminal dues - and this must be followed, although I double a death permit is part of it...
This is one of those cases where because of ignorance, you find out you are on the wrong end of the stick and then because "KQ has money", you run to a neighbour or relative who is a journalist to propel the company in bad light. The family itself has admitted that if they knew of the limits being exhausted, they'd have opted for a govt hospital. even the deceased, having worked for company for 26 years should have understood the policy well enough to advise her family on the limits.
Its funny that you condemn state funerals on one thread and then support similar type of payoffs on another. Kama limits zimeisha, the family workmates and friends should fundraise and clear the bill or push for the release of the terminal dues (rather unfortunate if the deceased has deserving dependants like children under 18 years of age or those still in school/college) to clear the bill.
Perfect case of scribes for hire.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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Spend.thrift wrote:Njung'e wrote:SHAME TO KQ......What would 6m do to KQ books?What a silly way of honouring a long time serving employee?What a silly way of seeking cheap negative publicity?...
While I don't like to see people suffer, I tend to differ - In fact I disagree with you.
If the illness that led to her death was occupational in nature, then maybe the family can stake a claim fo payment of medical bills and evn more damages. However, if it was illness that would have caught her regardless of whether she worked for the hospital, jobless or otherwise then the family should blame itself for not keeping a tab on the limits of the group medical insurance afforded to her her employer.
second, there is a procedure for paying out terminal dues - and this must be followed, although I double a death permit is part of it...
This is one of those cases where because of ignorance, you find out you are on the wrong end of the stick and then because "KQ has money", you run to a neighbour or relative who is a journalist to propel the company in bad light. The family itself has admitted that if they knew of the limits being exhausted, they'd have opted for a govt hospital. even the deceased, having worked for company for 26 years should have understood the policy well enough to advise her family on the limits.
Its funny that you condemn state funerals on one thread and then support similar type of payoffs on another. Kama limits zimeisha, the family workmates and friends should fundraise and clear the bill or push for the release of the terminal dues (rather unfortunate if the deceased has deserving dependants like children under 18 years of age or those still in school/college) to clear the bill.
Perfect case of scribes for hire.
@spend.thrift; you are spot-on! 
If you read the story again keeping emotions aside, you will see that the reported response from the KQ is only an admission that the deceased was an employee and that they are negotiating with the family.
I am sure that the HR manager said more than that but the reporter chose to leave it out.
Chances are that if one digs deeper, it will turn out that there is more than an arms-length relationship between the reporter and the deceased.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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Furthermore; the bulk of so-called terminal dues are pension benefits and these are protected by the RBA Act. They cannot be deducted for any reason whatsoever. Thus if the employee had exhausted her medical allowance and the airline pays the excess, it CANNOT deduct the excess amount from the terminal dues!
So, the airline must decide whether to be sufficiently philanthropic and just pay out without expecting a refund. Now do you think that such a decision can be made by the HR manager alone? Remember, it's sh6m! Very large for him to decide without consultation.
But when the matter goes to higher authorities, it turns out that as @Njung'e rightly says, the amount is too little to be given priority! So it takes too long to be decided upon!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@spendthrift,
How many KQ customers who'll read this story will understand or grasp it from your perspective?......If there are chances that one or more customers will not,it's worth the 6M.....If all KQ customers will see it your way and i doubt going by comments on the article,it's worth keeping the cheque.What am saying (Borrowed from Mutua),bad publicity is not worth even if it means being philanthropic upende usipende....two,i do not remember commenting on state burials unless my memory is failing me......and finally,let me hope you are not a PRo for hire  !!! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/28/2009 Posts: 353 Location: Cloud
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@njungu, well put. bad publicity is not good for business any time. However there is more to it than meets the eye. By the time the bill is clocking millis i imagine the hospital had feelers of who is paying. They will throw u out faster than u think the moment they suspect the insurance or the company involved is based along Wagi wa Mbeca Street "For i am the master and the captain of my fate"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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In all this the hospital will laugh all the way to the bank.
I know they usually do their best to rack up the shillings from those working in blue chip companies by managing the illness to their benefit, not the patient.
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