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CBK T Bill returns
amolo
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:33:38 PM
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It would appear the CBK does not pay the interest rates they claim to pay for T Bills and Bonds. As an example if you invest 100K on 364 days at 20% pa after 15% w/h tax you will get an interest of Ksh 14,134.65
Please use this CBK link to confirm my figures:

http://www.centralbank.g...uryBillsCalculator.aspx

Accordintg to my calculations the interst should be KSH 16,953.424 after 15% w/h Tax(allowing for the 364 days instead of 365 in a year)
Someone enlighten me please, better Mark L Lesiit(Assist Director, Financial Markets Department, CBK)
guru267
#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:48:11 PM
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From the calculator the interest is being calculated from the market price of the T-bill which is 83.71..

Meaning at this price your investment will be 83,710 and not 100k...
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:49:54 PM
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R U related to RAO by any chance smile
Scooby
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:15:13 AM
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Amolo,

Treasury bonds are a form of zero coupon bonds i.e. an investor gets the entire interest at the end of the investment period e.g after 364 days.

In your case, had you bid for the 364 treasury bill at 20% and you were successful, the current value of your Kshs. 100,000 (that you will get after 364 days) is Kshs. 83,371.

The difference between the current value and the face value is Kshs. 16,629. Hence, Kshs. 16,629 divided by the current value of Kshs. 83,371 gives you the 20% that you bid at.

CBK, will not only request you to pay up Kshs. 83,371 but also the 15% with - holding tax on your interest which is Kshs. 2,494.35. That explains the offer amount of Kshs. 85,865.35 as per your link.

Your net interest will therefore be Kshs. Kshs. 14,134.65 which is roughly 17% of the current value.

The offer amount plus the net interest is equal to the face value of the treasury bill

Hope this helps.
amolo
#5 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:04:12 AM
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Thanks, guru267 and Scooby. Clarification clear and issue closed.
As for Monomotapa please stop seeing everybody as either a relative of ROA or Ruto or Kenyatta. Some people are simply Kenyans, period. Not Kikuyus or Luos or Kambas or Kalenjins, just simple Kenyans.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#6 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:34:41 AM
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amolo wrote:
It would appear the CBK does not pay the interest rates they claim to pay for T Bills and Bonds. As an example if you invest 100K on 364 days at 20% pa after 15% w/h tax you will get an interest of Ksh 14,134.65
Please use this CBK link to confirm my figures:

http://www.centralbank.g...uryBillsCalculator.aspx

Accordintg to my calculations the interst should be KSH 16,953.424 after 15% w/h Tax(allowing for the 364 days instead of 365 in a year)
Someone enlighten me please, better Mark L Lesiit(Assist Director, Financial Markets Department, CBK)

@Amolo, interest is calculated on what you pay, your actual investment, and not what you receive, in this case 100K.
Regards
@SufficientlyP
gatoho
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:53:45 PM
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amolo wrote:
Thanks, guru267 and Scooby. Clarification clear and issue closed.
As for Monomotapa please stop seeing everybody as either a relative of ROA or Ruto or Kenyatta. Some people are simply Kenyans, period. Not Kikuyus or Luos or Kambas or Kalenjins, just simple Kenyans.


Amolo I think you missed the smiley #lightmoment
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Dahatre
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2015 12:12:28 AM
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Not too shabby given the crappy bourse...
Drool Drool Drool

Value Dated: 3rd August, 2015

This week the Central Bank of Kenya offered 91-day Treasury Bills for a total of Kshs.3 Billion. The total number of bids received was 255 amounting to Kshs.1.36 Billion, representing a subscription of 45.47%. Total bids accepted amounted to Kshs. 871.2 Million.The market weighted average rate was 13.974 %, and the weighted average of accepted bids which will be applied for non-competitive bids was 11.539% up from 11.486% in the previous auction. The other auction statistics are summarised in the table below.
Impunity
#9 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 3:29:49 PM
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Dahatre wrote:
Not too shabby given the crappy bourse...
Drool Drool Drool

Value Dated: 3rd August, 2015

This week the Central Bank of Kenya offered 91-day Treasury Bills for a total of Kshs.3 Billion. The total number of bids received was 255 amounting to Kshs.1.36 Billion, representing a subscription of 45.47%. Total bids accepted amounted to Kshs. 871.2 Million.The market weighted average rate was 13.974 %, and the weighted average of accepted bids which will be applied for non-competitive bids was 11.539% up from 11.486% in the previous auction. The other auction statistics are summarised in the table below.


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kyukkamba
#10 Posted : Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:06:19 PM
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..am out of the country and my account with CBK is frozen. Is there a way to re-activate it while am outside the country? want to invest in TB.
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