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keraka
#41 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 2:51:50 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.
Pray Pray or me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.

What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!
Pray Pray Pray Which maniac are you.Uhurumaniac or Rutomaniac.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
QD
#42 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 3:00:52 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.

For me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.

What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!

You seem to be in double steroids than the ones you are accusing, as none is celebrating but setting out facts and what ifs and only your railaphobia is on overdrive.
My query though kutuny said Kalonzo has no enough foot soldiers as well material backing.

What does Wamalwa bring to the table for those who are in the know???
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
xyzee
#43 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 4:28:44 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.

For me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.
What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!


And who might this acceptable candidate be Wamalwa?
nostoppingthis
#44 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 4:30:40 PM
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xyzee wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.

For me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.
What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!


And who might this accepatble candidate be Wamalwa?


WHO?
YesuWangu
#45 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 4:32:13 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.

For me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.

What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!



If they are celebrating from your observations, what are you doing at their party getting swollen for nothing?
mkeiy
#46 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 4:42:12 PM
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YesuWangu wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.

For me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.

What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!



If they are celebrating from your observations, what are you doing at their party getting swollen for nothing?

ha ha ha, true! That ngalaka has such a fertile imagination. Paranoid!
TAZ
#47 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 5:02:08 PM
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SKM is nothing but a joy rider that's why he's being kicked out. The UK and SKM alliance realized that they can get Ukambani votes with or without him. Here's someone who has even failed to bring Ngilu on board and Mpigs from his region despise him. I think Uhuruto might settle on a compromise candidate, it might be Tuju, PK, Wamalwa or even Saitoti who knows but one thing i'm sure of is that those two will do anything to stop RAO from making it to State Hse. Besides UK has never really been interested in the Presidency and WR wants to give RAo a taste of his own medicine.

keraka
#48 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 5:25:34 PM
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TAZ wrote:
SKM is nothing but a joy rider that's why he's being kicked out. The UK and SKM alliance realized that they can get Ukambani votes with or without him. Here's someone who has even failed to bring Ngilu on board and Mpigs from his region despise him. I think Uhuruto might settle on a compromise candidate, it might be Tuju, PK, Wamalwa or even Saitoti who knows but one thing i'm sure of is that those two will do anything to stop RAO from making it to State Hse. Besides UK has never really been interested in the Presidency and WR wants to give RAo a taste of his own medicine.


Applause Applause Applause Besides UK has never really been interested in the PresidencyShame on you Shame on you You are either knowingly joking or either high on one with mbegu ama you sensing some serious backlash.
WR wants to give RAo a taste of his own medicineApplause Applause Applause Applause Very true.His agenda 1.RAO 2.RAO 3.RAO

The UK and SKM alliance realized that they can get Ukambani votes with or without him. Here's someone who has even failed to bring Ngilu on board and Mpigs from his region despise him. pliz get a kamba friend and then tune in to the kamba Radio stations call in progs today sio kesho n you will know what the pple there are saying wachana na huo upuzi wa wazua.Infact theyve made him more than a hero and boy they r bitter with the so called ICC two.After their son tried all he could to save them thats the best they had to do to him and with wanton arrogance,infact wanasema afadhali Railla.Any kamba in the house will verify that.

Am no Kalonzo sympathyser but what was done to him inhuman.what was he to do?Dictate to Mutula a senior lawyer than him on what to say and not to say.
Btwn just read this somewhere,IF you are in a family of three brothers and two die automatically the remaining brother will take charge of their estate,n not that he is celebrating their death but rather life has to continue and its life man its always been unfair.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
nostoppingthis
#49 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 5:31:41 PM
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keraka wrote:
TAZ wrote:
SKM is nothing but a joy rider that's why he's being kicked out. The UK and SKM alliance realized that they can get Ukambani votes with or without him. Here's someone who has even failed to bring Ngilu on board and Mpigs from his region despise him. I think Uhuruto might settle on a compromise candidate, it might be Tuju, PK, Wamalwa or even Saitoti who knows but one thing i'm sure of is that those two will do anything to stop RAO from making it to State Hse. Besides UK has never really been interested in the Presidency and WR wants to give RAo a taste of his own medicine.


Applause Applause Applause Besides UK has never really been interested in the PresidencyShame on you Shame on you You are either knowingly joking or either high on one with mbegu ama you sensing some serious backlash.
WR wants to give RAo a taste of his own medicineApplause Applause Applause Applause Very true.His agenda 1.RAO 2.RAO 3.RAO

The UK and SKM alliance realized that they can get Ukambani votes with or without him. Here's someone who has even failed to bring Ngilu on board and Mpigs from his region despise him. pliz get a kamba friend and then tune in to the kamba Radio stations call in progs today sio kesho n you will know what the pple there are saying wachana na huo upuzi wa wazua.Infact theyve made him more than a hero and boy they r bitter with the so called ICC two.After their son tried all he could to save them thats the best they had to do to him and with wanton arrogance,infact wanasema afadhali Raila.Any kamba in the house will verify that.

Am no Kalonzo sympathyser but what was done to him inhuman.what was he to do?Dictate to Mutula a senior lawyer than him on what to say and not to say.
Btwn just read this somewhere,IF you are in a family of three brothers and two die automatically the remaining brother will take charge of their estate,n not that he is celebrating their death but rather life has to continue and its life man its always been unfair.


Really!!!? I doubt this...Kaloozer's ego is too big to walk back into the RAO camp....unless his followers leave him hanging...
maligumu
#50 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 5:45:44 PM
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Uhuru and Ruto have grown big horns . Infact in stroke of a statement these guys have given Kalonzo a lifeline , they have thrown stones to him which he will use to reconstruct his foundation . It might not be today or tomorrow but it will come to pass . At least now Ukambani know their true friends .
Peace be with you
Ngalaka
#51 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 8:03:47 PM
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YesuWangu wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.

For me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.

What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!



If they are celebrating from your observations, what are you doing at their party getting swollen for nothing?



Use the right preposition!


Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Ngalaka
#52 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 8:06:09 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
xyzee wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:

Raila maniacs are on steroids here.

They forget that their idol quest for state house is equally in ruins too!

Granted, with the recent development in G7, Kalonzos bid is on shaky grouunds.

But I fail to understand why Railalets would be celebrating.

I thought their nemesis was Uhuru and Ruto.

If these two remain on course and pick a candidate who is acceptable across the political landscape, that candidate will vanguish Raila and Kalonzo.

I am bewildered Railamanics dont seem to have a problem with that.

For me if Uhuru and Ruto chose such an acceptable fellow and he wins, so be it.
What I dread though is they err in their rush decisions and pick a candidate who gives Raila a lifeline!


And who might this accepatble candidate be Wamalwa?


WHO?


Are you implying something!

In politics almost anything is possible.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Lolest!
#53 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 9:09:15 PM
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Uhuruto meet this evening with Kalonzo and resolve to be united. Kalonzo writes to Kibaki asking him to sack Kilonzo.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#54 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 9:16:19 PM
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Uhuruto probably feel Kalonzo will be a weaker candidate than other candidates and would thus be beaten by Raila. Maybe they want to identify this 1 man who will carry the flag early enough and popularise him.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
nostoppingthis
#55 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 10:05:42 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Uhuruto meet this evening with Kalonzo and resolve to be united. Kalonzo writes to Kibaki asking him to sack Kilonzo.


stinks of desparation....
Njung'e
#56 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 10:16:29 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Uhuruto meet this evening with Kalonzo and resolve to be united. Kalonzo writes to Kibaki asking him to sack Kilonzo.


Kalonzo will never stand on his own....will never be a man by himself.What a pity.....One more thing.Baks will not fire Kilonzo and if he does,he should be ready to answer questions from many.Makosa ya Kilonzo ni yapi?....Telling it like it should be?
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
'user'
#57 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 10:31:47 PM
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maligumu wrote:
Uhuru and Ruto have grown big horns . Infact in stroke of a statement these guys have given Kalonzo a lifeline , they have thrown stones to him which he will use to reconstruct his foundation . It might not be today or tomorrow but it will come to pass . At least now Ukambani know their true friends .

londokweans are like sheep without shephard.everyone is on his own. mbloo magigi knows better
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
Mainat
#58 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 10:51:03 PM
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Winwin for Uhuruto. Kilonzo gets sacked, Kalonzo gets the blame. And he has fired Muthama (his moneyman!)

The 2 hooligans have basically stripped dj Stevo naked in public. At least he has 4 votes (mama na batoto)
Sehemu ndio nyumba
'user'
#59 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:41:35 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Winwin for Uhuruto. Kilonzo gets sacked, Kalonzo gets the blame. And he has fired Muthama (his moneyman!)

The 2 hooligans have basically stripped dj Stevo naked in public. At least he has 4 votes (mama na batoto)

what if they add a condition that kalonzo divorces his wife and disowns his kids so that they can keep him.si atakubali tu
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
mdudu
#60 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:11:50 AM
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Next door to the mansion where Kenya's richest man, presidential contender and now war crimes suspect Uhuru Kenyatta grew up near the capital Nairobi, stands Francis Karanja's mud hut with a tin roof.

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Father of two Karanja voted for the 50-year-old Kenyatta to be his member of parliament, hoping the son of Kenya's founding father, Jomo Kenyatta, would help him rise out of the poverty that traps millions of Kenyans.

"As you can see, Kenyatta is my neighbour. I feel he has neglected me since we voted him into parliament. We still struggle to make ends meet," said Karanja, 39, who ekes out a meagre living selling milk he pours from a large jerrycan into one-litre bottles for his customers.

But despite his disappointment, and Kenyatta's indictment last month for crimes against humanity by the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague, Karanja says he will vote for the Kenyatta scion in a coming presidential election.

"I feel sympathy for him because of the charges he faces and will vote for him again. We Kikuyu are loyal to our own," said Karanja, referring to the largest of Kenya's more than 40 tribes to which both he and Kenyatta belong.

This is a sign that tribal alliances trump ideology, or even a government's record of rule, in East Africa's biggest economy, which was shaken by bloody post-poll violence following disputed 2007 elections.

At least 1,220 people were killed in the worst communal fighting in Kenya's history and more than 300,000 were driven from their homes by the bloodshed which forms the basis of the ICC charges against Kenyatta and three other prominent leaders.

The ICC move has split the country, with some saying the war crimes court charges make Kenyatta unfit for public office. Kenyatta, however, is appealing, and has vowed to keep alive his bid to be elected president in polls due by March 2013.

Far from relinquishing his political ambitions as a result of the indictment, he has quit his government job as finance minister, swapped his designer suits for a baseball cap and Nelson Mandela-style shirts, and hit the campaign trail.

Rivals had hoped the confirmation of the ICC charges would signal his political demise but the opposite seems to be happening.

An opinion poll issued by Ipsos-Synovate Kenya on Feb. 6 showed his ratings in the race to be president have risen since the ICC charges, while the lead of Prime Minister Raila Odinga, the frontrunner and Kenyatta's political nemesis, is slipping.

"Uhuru is a hero because of (the) ICC," said Hezbon Ngaruiya, a church minister near the Gatundu home of Kenyatta, whose first name Uhuru means "freedom" in Swahili, a widely-spoken language in the country and in East Africa.

"The case has not hurt him, in fact it has made him more popular than ever. He will save a lot of money which he would have used on publicity during the campaigns," said Ngaruiya.

"A LOT OF BITTERNESS"

The ICC says Kenyatta mobilised an outlawed Mafia-style Kikuyu Mungiki criminal gang to kill members of the Kalenjin and Luo tribes, which both backed Odinga in the 2007 election.

Kenyatta, who is ranked Kenya's richest man by Forbes magazine, has rejected the war crimes charges.

The post-election violence erupted after supporters of Odinga claimed that President Mwai Kibaki, a Kikuyu, had stolen victory in the polls. Attacks on Kikuyu supporters of Kibaki triggered a bloody cycle of retaliatory attacks against Kalenjins and Luos.

A graduate of prestigious Amherst College in Massachusetts in the Unites States, Kenyatta is heir to his late father's vast business empire, spanning land ownership, the country's biggest dairy company, five-star hotels, and interests in banking, insurance and exclusive schools.

In his Kikuyu heartland, many of those driven from their homes by the violence in 2007 and 2008 are still destitute and languishing in camps more than four years later. Their leaders' promises to find them new places to live have come to nought.

Yet many still express ethnic loyalty to Kenyatta. A feeling prevails among many Kikuyus that Odinga's Luo tribe has escaped judgment by the ICC, and this will sway their vote in the upcoming election.

Anthony Nganga lives at a camp in Kikuyu-dominated Nyandarua, far from his Kiambaa farm in the Rift Valley where his family was attacked and had to flee to save their lives.

"Three-quarters of those who should be in The Hague are still free," said Nganga, a Kikuyu like Kenyatta.

"The Luos also killed Kikuyus and none of their leaders was charged. We have a lot of bitterness about that. This is why people feel the ICC process is flawed and dismiss it altogether. It is also why Uhuru is still popular even here," he said.

Nganga's wife Mumbi and newborn son survived the worst single attack of the violence when a Kalenjin mob torched a church on New Year's Day 2008, killing nearly 30 people.

ALLIANCE AGAINST ODINGA

Kenyatta wants to be a flag-bearer for the Kikuyu, but that bloc alone would not be enough to propel him to the presidency.

Staying a step ahead of his rivals, he has formed a new alliance with William Ruto, an ethnic Kalenjin, the third largest tribe in the country.

Ruto has also been indicted by the ICC for mobilising the Kalenjin to fight the Kikuyu after the Dec. 27, 2007 election.

So the alliance both unites two communities that attacked each other, and also forms a strong voting bloc.

Kenyatta's clarion call to his supporters is "tuko pamoja" in Swahili meaning 'we are together', alluding to the tribal alliances he is forging.

At joint rallies since the ICC ruling, Kenyatta is regularly feted like a rock star, as he and Ruto kneel side by side to receiving the blessing of priests and pastors.

But with both men running for president, it is not clear who would take the back seat when it comes to a vote, although for now they profess a common enemy in Odinga.

The prime minister is the man standing between Kenyatta and his ambition to walk in his father's footsteps. Odinga commands a cult-like following among his Luo tribe which hails from the west of the country near Lake Victoria.

Odinga, 67, known as "Agwambo" which means controversial or daring, represents the strongest challenge yet to the Kikuyu.

Two of Kenya's three presidents since independence from Britain in 1963 have been Kikuyu, the exception being former president Daniel arap Moi, a Kalenjin like Ruto.

Many Kikuyus have said they fear an Odinga presidency. Critics express fears that he would be anti-business.

They cite Odinga's remarks in a biography indicating he was a plotter in a failed coup attempt in 1982. The fact that he was educated in former communist East Germany - he named his first-born son Fidel after Cuba's Fidel Castro - has raised eyebrows.

LUOS SAY "NOW OUR TURN"

Although Odinga projects himself as a champion of the poor, he is part of Kenya's rich elite with interests in oil, a liquid petroleum gas cylinder maker and a molasses factory producing ethanol for export. But his wealth is dwarfed by Kenyatta's.

Odinga's constituency includes Nairobi's Kibera slum, one of Africa's largest and a haven for bandits. Critics say he has done little to fight poverty in Kibera, but again, ethnically-aligned supporters seem ready to forgive this.

"Why can't they leave it to Raila (Odinga)? He gave Kibaki votes, it is now our turn," said Roslyn Akinyi, 36, a Luo, squatting on a low stool poking her fork at fish sizzling on an open fire in Kibera.

Many Kikuyus say they are grateful to Odinga for throwing his weight behind Kibaki to help him win the presidency in 2002, crushing a challenge from his then rival Kenyatta.

But it seems few now countenance returning the favour.

The Kikuyu and Luo have had a bitter feud that goes back to when Odinga's father was vice president to Kenyatta's father. They fell out, and Odinga's father, Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, became a vocal opposition critic of Jomo Kenyatta.

This still counts in Kibaki's home turf, where tea estates owned by the president and other neighbouring farms carpet the hillsides in green. With Kibaki not eligible to run, this means Kenyatta gets the nod here, not Odinga.

"We cannot vote for someone we don't trust. Uhuru is our son," said Simon Kiboi, a 60-year-old tea farmer in Kibaki's constituency of Othaya deep inside central Kenya.


LEGAL HURDLES?

It is not however certain Kenyatta will be allowed to run for the presidency with the ICC charges hanging over his head.

Rights groups have asked the High Court to bar him and Ruto from running for the top seat.

The court has banned public debate about whether they can take part until it decides whether the ICC charges disqualify them. This gag also extends to the media.

Whatever the High Court decides, either party is likely to appeal, and the case could end up before Kenya's Supreme Court and could take months to resolve.

Should the ICC grant them the green light to appeal against their charges, it would also take months for the appeal court to hear their petitions, during which time Kenyatta could potentially still run for the presidency and win.

If their appeals to the ICC are rejected by the court, a trial may start this year. This could lock them out of the race because it could be unworkable to attend court sessions in the Hague and mount a serious campaign in Kenya at the same time.

Were Kenyatta to be put on trial and excluded from the race to the presidency, the Kikuyu say they would lack a strong candidate to retain their hold on power. It is not clear if he would back another candidate if he was barred from running.

"The Kikuyu would have no real leader if Kenyatta does not run, there is no precedent for such a scenario," said anti-corruption campaigner and political commentator John Githongo.


"VOTE OUTSIDE THE BOX"

There are other presidential hopefuls too.

Martha Karua, a lawyer who hails from a tribe that is a cousin to the Kikuyu, and Peter Kenneth, a Kikuyu junior minister with a background in banking, also want to follow in Kibaki's footsteps and are challenging Kenyatta.

Analysts give them little chance of succeeding, but they concede the two would gain more supporters if Kenyatta was locked out of the presidential race by a possible ICC trial.

Karua, known as the 'Iron Lady' after walking out on Moi at a public rally years ago, told Reuters at her constituency near Mount Kenya that electing leaders based on tribes does not pay.

"Those displaced by the post-election violence are Kikuyus like Kibaki. Are they not still living in tents?" she asked.

Kenneth's supporters, mainly well-to-do Kikuyus, say he should be president because he has helped create new jobs. But even in his constituency, some say Kenyatta would get their vote because Kenneth has not yet been tested on the national stage.

While Kenyatta's support among poor Kikuyu appears strong, among the young, educated, wealthy or urban professionals where Karua and Kenneth have found support, backing for the son of a Kenyan political legend is more ambivalent.

In Gatundu, Naomi Kamau, a 25-year-old teacher born in the area said not all Kikuyus were behind Kenyatta.

"I'm unlikely to vote for someone facing such charges, and secondly I don't trust the company keeps. I'll vote based on their policies, even if it is Odinga or Karua," she said.

"We have to start voting outside the box."

Source: Reuters

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