When I read posts from arsenal fans as above.....Then am unable to throw any jibe.

I used to be happy when asenane loses but not any more.

"At 80 minutes, when we were desperate for a goal, Rosicky mis-hit a shot so badly at the edge of the area that it literally hit the corner flag. I don't mean that in the Jamie Redknapp sense of the word 'literally'. I mean the ball actually hit the corner flag."

Another possible reason why we lost..

Arsenal fans and a pile of empty beer cans in front of Milan Cathedral before the match

You and me both...

@ Buster.....First of all how can you be hungry for trophies without the desire to perform well on the pitch??? I don't believe you need a winning mentality against teams like Wolves and Birmingham just need to use a different approach on the pitch because they've probably figured out your style after thrashing them for two or seasons....that's how we lost the Carling cup last season. Let me also say I'll always disagree with anyone who suggests we must have British players. Right now Daglish is being criticized so much on putting a lot of faith on "home-based" players who have failed to lift the team....IMHO i think singing Carroll, Henderson, Downing, Adam & co was a total waste of 100m pounds. Take a look at Chelsea, Man City and Spurs who are their most important players and how many of them are British. From Man Utd's point of view who's their best defender, between Carrick and Anderson who would you prefer. Hata when we used to win the league and other trophies we never had British players "at the core" of the team. Btw players such as Viera/Keane can't be replaced, hata Man Utd still have problems at the midfield

The reason why most Arsenal fans blame Wenger is because he's too stubborn on using one style of play even when there's need to change. Marouane Chamakh was one of the best players in Ligue 1. He actually scored 11 goals in his first season at Arsenal (in RVP's absence), look at him now....shattered confidence and weak in front of goal mainly due to Mr. Bean's stubbornness in playing with one sole striker. Arshavin always performs well for Russia, IN A MORE CENTRAL ROLE like he did at Zenit. He's complained so much about being used as a winger lakini wapi. Arteta used to be so lethal at Everton sasa he's just there to supplement our midfield.

The problem with Wenger is that when things are not going well on the pitch he just sits down looks for something or someone to blame instead of looking into a change of tact or players. Btw i don't believe in "winning mentality", i think its just a matter of having quality players (read Barcelona). How many of our top players have we sold. If we maintain this current squad for at least 2 seasons without selling anyone and sign one or two player where we are short we'd be very strong. Anyway it hasn't been all bad we've had some really good performances this season but when it goes wrong the team is clueless because there's no plan B. We need to be consistent and that can only happen if the manager is willing to accommodate new ideas. Sasa why did he give Djourou a new contract last week? Maybe what we need is a strong assistant Manager someone who can challenge Wenger's decisions....well maybe we'll get that soon because Pat Rice will retire at end of the season.

http://www.joe.ie/footba...kable-offence-0021022-1

http://www.espn.co.uk/fo...136463.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

I think that article pretty much sums it up for my dear Arsenal...

"how long, given current circumstances, until Wenger is heard championing the importance of the Europa League - another lowering of the standards?"

I've said it before that Wenger is a poor tactician compared to Mancini, AVB, Mourinho or even Ferguson. He never seems to realise soon enough that plan A is not working and to switch into plan B. He never wants to buy quality players. And then at the end he blames everyone else but himself.

On a lighter note, did you notice that the San Siro had been ploughed all along the ends of the pitch? The turf was aweful! Was it a deliberate effort to kill Arsenal's wing attacking play, and foster Milan's central attacking play?

i dont think there is a surprise in arsenal losing, any football fan, ANY FOOTBALL FAN, was realistic after milan drew arsenal that arsenal were out. player for player except maybe JUST MAYBE the goalkeeper milan has superior quality to arsenal at the current squad. i was not surprised and to hear kiss tv analyst say that the best milan would get would be a draw!! that was laughable. i was not surprised at all AT ALL

Almost all football analyst had predicted an Arsenal win at the San Siro and i think the game was there to be won but our players just didn't turn up on the pitch. Like someone has said we really made Milan look good. I think the best thing for Arsenal would be to miss out on CL next season, we need time to regroup....btw did you watch the game ama tu ni analysis za gazetti!

@ Mc Reggae...Are you by any chance trying to champion the "importance" of Europa Liga?

Isn't this the same Milan side that lost 2-0 at the San Siro against a very young Arsenal Side and was also beaten at home by Spurs last year? Anyway we are as good as out of the CL no need to dwell too much on what could or should have happened.

jguru i may be liar but arsenal lost and that's no lie, as i said player for player Milan have far better quality that arsenal and again that's no lie