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guru267
#21 Posted : Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:12:47 PM
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QW25091985 wrote:

Definatly i dnt see facebook price collapsing.


After Doing some research I have changed my prediction for facebook.. I have come across linkedin's shares which have a P/E of 1600x.. This is insane but implies that fcbk is not too relatively overvalued.. But we are definitely in a bubble that WILL burst¡¡
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itz
#22 Posted : Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:29:04 PM
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QW25091985
#23 Posted : Sunday, February 05, 2012 4:14:54 PM
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mark zakarburg spotted . ati this is they guy whose a billionaire ...nkt ...lol

guru267
#24 Posted : Sunday, February 05, 2012 4:33:52 PM
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[quote=QW25091985]mark zakarburg spotted . ati this is they guy whose a billionaire ...nkt ...lol /quote]

Make that a billionare 24x over¡¡
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KenyanLyrics
#25 Posted : Sunday, February 05, 2012 4:53:44 PM
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@QW techies don't typically engage in gross displays of wealth. Leave that to marketing/ sales/ finance people.
Elder
#26 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2012 9:05:25 AM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
@QW techies don't typically engage in gross displays of wealth. Leave that to marketing/ sales/ finance people.

Ever heard of Kim Dotcom?
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GenghisCapitalLtd
#27 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2012 11:01:56 AM

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Nabwire wrote:
GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
QW25091985 wrote:
2012 wrote:
So how can someone get a piece of this from here (Kenya)?



with the share costing 4k how many do you think you can buy !

Enyewe the secondary trading of Facebook shares was at $35.50 (USDKES is at 81.4 at the moment). The fact that it's one of the hottest IPOs ever will limit your the number of shares that a retail investor like yourself will be allocated. Huge institutional investors have expressed their desires to participate heavily in this IPO.
Another avenue could be investing in funds that already have Facebook shares - like T. Rowe Price Media & Telecommunications Fund (PRMTX) invested $12Mn in 507,349 facebook shares in 2011 around $25 per share. They have already made gains with the shares at $35.50 when secondary trading was frozen a week ago.
Our sister company, Winton Investments Services Limited who deal in offshore investments are looking into ways of making these shares available to interested Kenyan investors. Please send your queries to info@winton-investments.com for further clarification on this matter.



As far as I know, you have to have a valid social security number to invest in any US stocks, so im just wondering how you will get Kenyan investors into this IPO? Or as a fund through Winton?( meaning you will most likely charge way more than IPO price to your members?) By the way are you like the owner of this company, im sure you are not an employee judging from your posts.I must say I like your corporate image even though I had never heard of Genghis prior.Applause
Anyways I think FB will do well with the IPO given they have the almighty backing of Google. Though I wont get into it, the opportunity cost is too great.

@Nabwire From your posts I'm guessing you live and work in the states therefore you would be more informed on how foreign investors can be part of the IPO. With our sister company Winton Investments Limited, they are using their international contacts in Europe to find ways of getting into the IPO. The most probable will be to get interested parties on a platform (Generali, Skandia, etc) that has access to funds that have already invested in Facebook shares. I agree this will be quite pricey not from our end but fees payable to be part of that platform are quite high. It all comes down to the numbers if Winton will proceed with their intended strategy. I should say I don't work for Winton therefore I do not know the nitty-gritty, please send your queries to info@winton-investments.com for clarification.
I am an employee of Genghis Capital Limited. We are a stock brokerage firm located in Nairobi that emphasises on relationship-brokerage. Please visit our website on www.genghis-capital.com and we do have products and services for Kenyans in the diaspora. Any queries please send to info@genghis-capital.com.
Out of curiosity why won't you get into Facebook? Are you thinking it's another bubble stock?
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Ric dees
#28 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:33:42 PM
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@Guru/Deal.. please clarify this phrase 'bubble will burst'? maybe you guys have some info we don't have? some facts/trends/precedence would be nice!!

@Nabwire..you don't have to have a social security number to trade shares in the US, Using this platform for trading shares http://www.iii.co.uk/ currently some broker is selling them to me at $140 (calling me directly from the US)and please,please, can some-one clarify what is a bubble stock or why Facebook is a bubble stock?

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Jamani
#29 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:28:13 PM
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The Details behind the Facebook IPO

Here's what I've learned from Facebook's S-1.

Some of the data points buried in the IPO document are eye-opening, to say the least.

Chief among those are Facebook's assertion that 6% to 7% of the entire world population logs in every day. More importantly, they stay logged in for a significant amount of time.

However, what will happen in the future to drive the stock's share price after it's brought to market is buried deeper in the details.

It's these details that make Facebook's IPO a hold if you already own shares, but also a "wait to buy" if you are like most people and want to own them.

In a nutshell, what I've learned is the banks are bringing Facebook to market fully priced.

My opinion is the bankers have gotten greedy and decided to push the valuation numbers above the levels that I believe are sustainable.

The company is being valued at $75 billion - $100 billion dollars at launch. This would make it one of the most valuable companies in the world, yet its actual revenue, let alone profitability, is at a more mundane level.

Currently, Facebook is reporting about $4 billion in revenue and profits of $1 billion.

That means if Facebook prices in at the top of its estimated range ($100 billion), based on current disclosures it would have a 100-to-1 price to earnings (P/E) ratio.

In other words, it's only going to take about 100 years for Facebook to eventually earn what it may price at. Compared to other blockbuster stocks, that's quite rich.

By comparison, Apple Inc. (Nasdaq: AAPL) has $100 billion in cash and a P/E ratio of 11 while Google's P/E is 20.

That's why it's time to "Hold" Facebook (**) or wait to buy it until insiders get a chance to sell their shares and bring the price down to levels common people can realistically afford to purchase.

By Jack Barnes, G.M.T Specialist
Mainat
#30 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 3:56:49 PM
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Surely the pe looks silly even for an overhyped thingy like nosebook
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