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josiah33
#21 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:28:52 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@XSK-Change from freehold to leasehold is done on the title deed especially during seeking approval for subdivision of land.what the local authority is simply saying is that the land use for your land is not residential-you need to change it from whichever use e.g agricultural,industrial e.t.c to residential.


I don't understand. From what i read, i take u to mean the freehold plot is for agricultural or industrial use and needs to be changed to residential use. Why does it have to revert to leasehold for it to be residential?
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#22 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:45:21 PM
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There is no relationship between title type i.e freehold/leasehold and allowed land use i.e agric,residential,industrial.
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#23 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:40:08 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
There is no relationship between title type i.e freehold/leasehold and allowed land use i.e agric,residential,industrial.


@a4

why is the council then insisting on change of user including change from freehold to 99 year leasehold? They recommended annual payment of peppercorn rent before approval of the building plan.
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josiah33
#24 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:48:48 PM
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XSK wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
There is no relationship between title type i.e freehold/leasehold and allowed land use i.e agric,residential,industrial.


@a4

why is the council then insisting on change of user including change from freehold to 99 year leasehold? They recommended annual payment of peppercorn rent before approval of the building plan.

maybe they just want the land rates from you.
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#25 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:56:01 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
XSK wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
There is no relationship between title type i.e freehold/leasehold and allowed land use i.e agric,residential,industrial.


@a4

why is the council then insisting on change of user including change from freehold to 99 year leasehold? They recommended annual payment of peppercorn rent before approval of the building plan.

maybe they just want the land rates from you.


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#26 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:17:17 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
There is no relationship between title type i.e freehold/leasehold and allowed land use i.e agric,residential,industrial.

Under what circumstances does a freehold title change to leasehold in a subdivision? I have seen subdivisions where the title for the individual plots still remain freehold.
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:52:24 AM
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@madammary..when the freehold title is returned for issuance of anotehr sub-divided title, this is the chance that the ministry of land takes to issue a leasehold. Valuers,Surveyors and Conveyancing experts here in wazua can advise us better on this mechanism i.e can an owner refuse their land to change to leasehold?
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:58:28 AM
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Let me also advise, esp to developers of housing estates: it is a requirement that drawings for sewer and water reticulation be submitted to the water company for approval and inspection during construction. This is done at the developers cost. After a given defects period, the company takes over for their operation. Failure to do this may mean you have estates with perennial water/sewer problems. And this are many.
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#29 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:44:52 AM
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@majimaji..thanks for your advice..also give your thoughts on whether a land owner has a right to insist that their title does not change from freehold to leasehold during subdivision.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:48:20 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@majimaji..thanks for your advice..also give your thoughts on whether a land owner has a right to insist that their title does not change from freehold to leasehold during subdivision.


I can't advise on this one. I'm also curious to know the true position.
physical planners/ surveyors in wazua, saidia.
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#31 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:57:33 PM
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majimaji wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@majimaji..thanks for your advice..also give your thoughts on whether a land owner has a right to insist that their title does not change from freehold to leasehold during subdivision.


I can't advise on this one. I'm also curious to know the true position.
physical planners/ surveyors in wazua, saidia.

where are the experts?
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#32 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 11:59:43 AM
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who knows how the council calculates the cost of building approvals?
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