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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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wilyum wrote:mutahi on twirra continues to say....
If there is a run-off we have no president till April 2013. Section 142(1) of new constitution is suspended by 2(1)C of the 6th Schedule Martha Karua thinks otherwise, says term includes elections period!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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One person I'm sure is happy about the new elections date is IEBC Chair Isaak Hassan, now has ample time for preparedness. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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"In accordance with Article 255 of the Constitution, an amendment to the Constitution affecting the term of the President cannot be effected into law without a referendum." So unless there is a refurendum, MK's term virtually expires on 30th December 2012. Hence we will have no President on 31st of Jan 2012!!! "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Tebes wrote:"In accordance with Article 255 of the Constitution, an
amendment to the Constitution affecting the term of the
President cannot be effected into law without a
referendum."
So unless there is a refurendum, MK's term virtually expires on 30th December 2012. Hence we will have no President on 31st of Jan 2012!!! ...and what is your interpretation of the term of the president as far as the electioneering period is concerned? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:2012 wrote:I'm for good, well planned elections whenever the date and at least the Hague tensions would have cooled down.
I think RO would be the biggest loser if elections are March 2013 as he's losing numbers with every passing day. ...you had to say that based on the findings of the jackpotter friend of mines opinion polls Actually no. That poll was not even believable and political mischief was written all over it. But that being the case we can conclude that in these elections the incumbent is RO the throne is his to lose and it's slowly slipping away. Wouldn't you agree?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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I think those high court judges have made a very grave error in interpreting law and should all be sacked. It is a fact that Bak's term expires on 30th december. That is the same day we need to have the new president sworn in to start his/her new term. Same logic applies to the mpigs.... we swear in new mpigs in january 2013... so elections MUST be held before that time!!! When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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Tebes wrote:"In accordance with Article 255 of the Constitution, an
amendment to the Constitution affecting the term of the
President cannot be effected into law without a
referendum."
So unless there is a refurendum, MK's term virtually expires on 30th December 2012. Hence we will have no President on 31st of Jan 2013!!! So we have some half baked judges there. an appeal could easily succeed any wannabe lawyer willing to win fame(customers and money) for winning a case on constitutional matters ? December would have made more sense its only 13 January , we have all the time to prepare till Dec 2012. 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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'user' wrote:Tebes wrote:"In accordance with Article 255 of the Constitution, an
amendment to the Constitution affecting the term of the
President cannot be effected into law without a
referendum."
So unless there is a refurendum, MK's term virtually expires on 30th December 2012. Hence we will have no President on 31st of Jan 2013!!! So we have some half baked judges there.
an appeal could easily succeed any wannabe lawyer willing to win fame(customers and money) for winning a case on constitutional matters ?December would have made more sense its only 13 January , we have all the time to prepare till Dec 2012. I totally agree. An a appeal will 99.9% go through and elections will be done in December 2012. It is not practical for a country to proceed without a president and vice president not even for a day. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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Tebes wrote:"In accordance with Article 255 of the Constitution, an
amendment to the Constitution affecting the term of the
President cannot be effected into law without a
referendum."
So unless there is a refurendum, MK's term virtually expires on 30th December 2012. Hence we will have no President on 31st of Jan 2012!!! Does the constitution foresee a situation when there is no president? If so, what are the contingencies it has in place?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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In my own view and wisdom ,the president will disolve the coalition on September (from 26th -27th) then 60 days will apply for the IEBC to hold an election. In this way,we shall avoid a situation of no president over some period coz another president will be elected on or around December 27th -28th 2012. After dissolution,there will be no prime minister but a one part government. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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What the judges forgot was that the term for the MPs in the old constitution was 5 years inclusive of the electioneering period, their judgement should have refelected this, my thoughts!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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Burning Spear wrote:In my own view and wisdom ,the president will disolve the coalition on September (from 26th -27th) then 60 days will apply for the IEBC to hold an election. In this way,we shall avoid a situation of no president over some period coz another president will be elected on or around December 27th -28th 2012.
After dissolution,there will be no prime minister but a one part government. Dreamer  Not Kibaki .His men would want him to continue for as long as possible. 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Burning Spear wrote:In my own view and wisdom ,the president will disolve the coalition on September (from 26th -27th) then 60 days will apply for the IEBC to hold an election. In this way,we shall avoid a situation of no president over some period coz another president will be elected on or around December 27th -28th 2012.
After dissolution,there will be no prime minister but a one part government. Unfortunately the president cannot dsolve the coalition on his own, both the principals must put this in writing, he can only walk away from the coaltion!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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YesuWangu wrote:Tebes wrote:"In accordance with Article 255 of the Constitution, an
amendment to the Constitution affecting the term of the
President cannot be effected into law without a
referendum."
So unless there is a refurendum, MK's term virtually expires on 30th December 2012. Hence we will have no President on 31st of Jan 2012!!! Does the constitution foresee a situation when there is no president? If so, what are the contingencies it has in place? Do you think Kenya would stop without a President? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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KulaRaha wrote:YesuWangu wrote:Tebes wrote:"In accordance with Article 255 of the Constitution, an
amendment to the Constitution affecting the term of the
President cannot be effected into law without a
referendum."
So unless there is a refurendum, MK's term virtually expires on 30th December 2012. Hence we will have no President on 31st of Jan 2012!!! Does the constitution foresee a situation when there is no president? If so, what are the contingencies it has in place? Do you think Kenya would stop without a President? No. Are we headed for ‘civilian coup’ with draft law?The president atakwenda tu. Wengine watabaki.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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If there's no prezzo, si Speaker atashikilia in the interim? Ama? Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2011 Posts: 129 Location: Nairobi
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The solution to this predicament is simple. Hold elections Jan 21st 2013 and IEBC announce that this week and kill the debate and ensure certainty. The Yobs will only have an extra month.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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SAC Cohen wrote:The solution to this predicament is simple. Hold elections Jan 21st 2013 and IEBC announce that this week and kill the debate and ensure certainty. The Yobs will only have an extra month. What forms the basis of your suggestion sir??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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20 13Am already having a bad 13 Jan. May be we can push the elections to 2014 just to avoid the 13. would be fine for me.Honestly I dont like 13 . 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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