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Current economy recession and the expected 2013 recovery
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simonkabz
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:47:02 AM
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Separating the real men from boys. Hehe
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Cde Monomotapa
#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 5:42:00 AM
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The folly here is the assumption that economies are built by charts & not productivity. The simplest way to end the commotion here is to ask whether the conditions that led to the stress Kenya was in in 2011 are easing or not. And when U can answer this question objectively & frankly...you have a bright future ahead of you smile
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guru267
#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:29:49 AM
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kizee1 wrote:
hisah is spot on.... why aren't you guys reading the signs? inverted yield curve= likely recession , however monetary contraction= DEFINITE RECESSION,if you want to compare apples and apples go back to a period of monetary contraction and check out how the economy fared...of the top of my head i can think of two 1.post goldenberg era 2.post SAP(structural adjustment programs) era
Which economic theory are you using to justify that monetary contraction = DEFINITE recession¿¿ Most investors realize the crisis is extremely temporary and are powering on with their projects despite this and political uncertainty... Be careful about using big words as they maybe very hard to swallow when the tim comes my friend.. NEGATIVE growth in 2012 is completely off the cards.. Even my passionate enemy the WB tends to agree with me on this... m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/world-bank-cuts-kenya-2011-growth-forecast-4-063308913.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us
Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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kizee1
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 8:50:15 AM
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guru267 wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
hisah is spot on.... why aren't you guys reading the signs? inverted yield curve= likely recession , however monetary contraction= DEFINITE RECESSION,if you want to compare apples and apples go back to a period of monetary contraction and check out how the economy fared...of the top of my head i can think of two 1.post goldenberg era 2.post SAP(structural adjustment programs) era
Which economic theory are you using to justify that monetary contraction = DEFINITE recession¿¿ Most investors realize the crisis is extremely temporary and are powering on with their projects despite this and political uncertainty... Be careful about using big words as they maybe very hard to swallow when the tim comes my friend.. NEGATIVE growth in 2012 is completely off the cards.. Even my passionate enemy the WB tends to agree with me on this... m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/world-bank-cuts-kenya-2011-growth-forecast-4-063308913.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us
your saying that a monetary contraction doesn't necessarily lead to a recession? Ur joking rite? what do u understand by a monetary contraction? in ur view the amount of money in circulation doesn't affect economic growth? do u have to be an economist to make sense out of this? name one recession that was not caused by monetary contraction, just one
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guru267
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:35:02 AM
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kizee1 wrote:
your saying that a monetary contraction doesn't necessarily lead to a recession? Ur joking rite? what do u understand by a monetary contraction? in ur view the amount of money in circulation doesn't affect economic growth? name one recession that was not caused by monetary contraction, just one
My friend two things to mention.. 1. The amount of money in circulation does affect economic growth but it has never been the ONLY factor affecting economic growth in an economy.. 2. All Recessions maybe caused by monetary contractions as you say but that has never meant that all monetary contractions have resulted in recessions.. if the contraction is dealt with well or is temporary why should a recession result?? So YES I am saying that not all monetary contractions lead to recessions.. it all depends on the nature, duration and severity of the contraction..
Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:52:03 AM
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Lower/ reduced economic growth in an economy has never and will never mean the same as an economic recession as long as it remains positive....
Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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FUNKY
#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:15:23 AM
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Cde Monomotapa
#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:35:45 AM
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FUNKY wrote:
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Finance+minister+in+catch+22++over+tax+measures+in+new+Bill+/-/1006/1295222/-/item/0/-/w4nrbtz/-/index.html
'taming' banks as proposed will move banks from quality to quantity loans. Welcome sub-prime & NINJA loans and when things go pop!! they'll be more blood on politicians hands than their short-sightedness can fathom. Down with this popular/politically motivated laws!
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kizee1
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:49:54 AM
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guru267 wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
your saying that a monetary contraction doesn't necessarily lead to a recession? Ur joking rite? what do u understand by a monetary contraction? in ur view the amount of money in circulation doesn't affect economic growth? name one recession that was not caused by monetary contraction, just one
My friend two things to mention.. 1. The amount of money in circulation does affect economic growth but it has never been the ONLY factor affecting economic growth in an economy.. 2. All Recessions maybe caused by monetary contractions as you say but that has never meant that all monetary contractions have resulted in recessions.. if the contraction is dealt with well or is temporary why should a recession result?? So YES I am saying that not all monetary contractions lead to recessions.. it all depends on the nature, duration and severity of the contraction..
really? can u give me an example of a recession not caused by a monetary contraction just one really
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the deal
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:52:37 AM
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@hisah @Kizee Some people only see whats happening today or what happened in the past, look at how every Tom & Dick is a critic of CBK today than 7-8 month when things where going wrong? LMAO @Cde read what i wrote 7-8 month ago.
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