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Kratos
#71 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:38:28 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
mnjoro wrote:
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When it comes to who stands to loose most,i don,t think the govt is careless.Think on the effects the no flying- zone and the other embargos would have on freight rates etc.In return would ICC lift charges on our suspects?

i doubt the judge had the intention of making it easy for the ocampo six, if anyone wants to make it easy for the ocampo six then it's some people in government. Let Al Bashir carry out his threats and become more alone. Let him gravitate towards Eritrea and support Al Shabaab and the international community and ICC would have more reason to make him pay for his crimes against humanity. Who knows, if kenya hadn't gone to plead with him, he would have been turned into a fugitive like Osama Bin Laden. The only thing that worries me is the Sudan's Comprehensive Peace Accord.


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josiah33
#72 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:17:11 AM
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Kratos wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
mnjoro wrote:
[quote=madammary]
When it comes to who stands to loose most,i don,t think the govt is careless.Think on the effects the no flying- zone and the other embargos would have on freight rates etc.In return would ICC lift charges on our suspects?

i doubt the judge had the intention of making it easy for the ocampo six, if anyone wants to make it easy for the ocampo six then it's some people in government. Let Al Bashir carry out his threats and become more alone. Let him gravitate towards Eritrea and support Al Shabaab and the international community and ICC would have more reason to make him pay for his crimes against humanity. Who knows, if kenya hadn't gone to plead with him, he would have been turned into a fugitive like Osama Bin Laden. The only thing that worries me is the Sudan's Comprehensive Peace Accord.


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well i enjoy stuff like 24 featuring keifer sunderland etc.
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josiah33
#73 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:21:52 AM
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Parliament faults the executive for not preventing the ruling by the Judiciary. Interesting Government we have! A pure comedy to be proud of.

hmmmh! one arm of Government telling another arm of Government to muzzle another arm of Government.
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Lolest!
#74 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:09:06 PM
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It is curious that President Bashir has reacted so violently to Kenya while he has been largely silent on other countries that have indicated they may enforce the ICC arrest warrant.

According to the ICJ-Kenya, which filed the case, the Kenyan court action is not unprecedented. The South African Litigation Centre made a similar application in May 2009 following word that President Bashir planned to attend the inauguration of President Jacob Zuma.

President Bashir cancelled the trip, and Sudan did not sever diplomatic links or issue any threats against South Africa.

And the following year, the Ugandan Foreign Minister Henry Okello Oryem announced that President Bashir might be arrested if he made a planned visit to Uganda.

President Yoweri Museveni renounced the statement and apologised to President Bashir, who however put off any trip to Kampala. But, again, he did not expel the Ugandan ambassador or issue any threats of sanctions.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...st/-/mg5o52/-/index.html
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Lolest!
#75 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:25:54 PM
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Court of appeal rejects AGs appeal
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josiah33
#76 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:55:41 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
It is curious that President Bashir has reacted so violently to Kenya while he has been largely silent on other countries that have indicated they may enforce the ICC arrest warrant.

According to the ICJ-Kenya, which filed the case, the Kenyan court action is not unprecedented. The South African Litigation Centre made a similar application in May 2009 following word that President Bashir planned to attend the inauguration of President Jacob Zuma.

President Bashir cancelled the trip, and Sudan did not sever diplomatic links or issue any threats against South Africa.

And the following year, the Ugandan Foreign Minister Henry Okello Oryem announced that President Bashir might be arrested if he made a planned visit to Uganda.

President Yoweri Museveni renounced the statement and apologised to President Bashir, who however put off any trip to Kampala. But, again, he did not expel the Ugandan ambassador or issue any threats of sanctions.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...t/-/mg5o52/-/index.html


kwani huyu Bashir hupatia hawa wakora wa kenya nini?
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josiah33
#77 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:17:28 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Court of appeal rejects AGs appeal

what is wentangula and company going to do now?
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Lolest!
#78 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:23:34 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Court of appeal rejects AGs appeal

what is wentangula and company going to do now?

BTW this is not final, the court just rejected the AGs plea to have a stay in execution of the earlier order. The main case is still on.
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josiah33
#79 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:27:12 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Court of appeal rejects AGs appeal

what is wentangula and company going to do now?

BTW this is not final, the court just rejected the AGs plea to have a stay in execution of the earlier order. The main case is still on.

but there was the Bashir's two weeks ultimatum and this case seems to be dragging on for long.
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Sigiriri
#80 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:49:37 AM
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guys, for me this case is very, very simple. Kenyans went to court with a valid case. The judge looked at this form all angles and was guided by the laws of the land including our new constitution. At the point of the case going to court, the AG should have started to throw in strategy at this point. Maybe arranging to meet with the petitioner etc because truth be told - the case was basically an open and shut matter when it comes to the legalities.

The question now is - do we Kenyans suspend our laws on this one or do we support our judiciary now that this is upheld? I chose to stand with the judiciary.
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