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mwekez@ji
#21 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:02:58 PM
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QW25081985 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
we can see that the nse has fallen and now is close to the sloping trendline at point be . i expect a rally towards point A when the index bounces of the point b .You can also see on the chart that on numerous occasions the trendline has provided support to the index on numerous times as shown by the arrows.. ...
Happy trading , folks !


It takes just 2 bottoms to draw a trend line but it takes a 3rd bottom to confirm the trend. Your trendline looks valid Applause

I see the bounce predicted is highly likely to be far less than 10% and then we resume the journey towards the level @cde is calling the index (2500). The gains on the bounce sound too little. Sad Or am missing something here


wow . what do you mean ..we are looking at a 500 point bounce atleast thats something ....
too much support for us to see 2500 but it can happen !


Going by the channel you have drawn, moving from point B to A would not give 500 point ... ama
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Aguytrying
#22 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:23:20 PM
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All that risk for 20%? Why not choose a 10% dividend counter an chill out. This is not an advisable trading environment and you all know it. Those who stick out their necks, will get their heads chopped off.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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mwekez@ji
#23 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:27:29 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
we can see that the nse has fallen and now is close to the sloping trendline at point be . i expect a rally towards point A when the index bounces of the point b .You can also see on the chart that on numerous occasions the trendline has provided support to the index on numerous times as shown by the arrows.. ...
Happy trading , folks !


It takes just 2 bottoms to draw a trend line but it takes a 3rd bottom to confirm the trend. Your trendline looks valid ... Applause

I see the bounce predicted is highly likely to be far less than 10% and then we resume the journey towards the level @cde is calling the index (2500). The gains on the bounce sound too little. Sad Or am missing something here

At such levels, I wonder what some of our 'blue-chips' will be trading atSad Sad Sad


We had such an index in March 2009. Those prices of March 09 could be coming back

Many stocks are already below March 2009 lows by the way...


some like aghakhan stocks have a way to go, KK (4point something), KPLC/KP (12-13), Centum and Equity (9 point something) coop (6-7) ...
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QW25081985
#24 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:27:55 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
All that risk for 20%? Why not choose a 10% dividend counter an chill out. This is not an advisable trading environment and you all know it. Those who stick out their necks, will get their heads chopped off.


and where did you read that the management will keep the divided constant ???? ...thats even dangerous trading !!!!! i read another thread saying we buy stocks for divided...WOW .thats damn risky..one day the directors will wake up and decide to slash those dividend they you'll know what i mean . even Warren buffet says never buy stocks for dividend....
oh and by the way you have seen i have not named even one company to buy so its up to the investor to decide..
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guru267
#25 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:31:39 PM
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QW25081985 wrote:
and where did you read that the management will keep the divided constant ???? ...thats even dangerous trading !!!!! i read another thread saying we buy stocks for divided...WOW .thats damn risky..one day the directors will wake up and decide to slash those dividend they you'll know what i mean . even Warren buffet says never buy stocks for dividend....


If earnings are stable and there are no projects to invest in management will ALWAYS maintain or grow the diviidend..

You seem to be forgetting that they are employed by shareholders not the other way around..
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QW25081985
#26 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:39:47 PM
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guru267 wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
and where did you read that the management will keep the divided constant ???? ...thats even dangerous trading !!!!! i read another thread saying we buy stocks for divided...WOW .thats damn risky..one day the directors will wake up and decide to slash those dividend they you'll know what i mean . even Warren buffet says never buy stocks for dividend....


If earnings are stable and there are no projects to invest in management will ALWAYS maintain or grow the diviidend..

You seem to be forgetting that they are employed by shareholders not the other way around..


you must be joking .your argument for investing for dividend doesnt hold any water such a serious investor like you could think so shallow like that ....WOW ...what about retained earnings,long term projects etc etc etc .surely investing millions in a stock to get dividends...either you guys are going insane or you are already insane ..
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sparkly
#27 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:44:16 PM
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QW25081985 wrote:
[quote=Aguytrying]
oh and by the way you have seen i have not named even one company to buy so its up to the investor to decide..


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Aguytrying
#28 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 8:51:43 PM
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QW25081985 wrote:
[quote=Aguytrying]All that risk for 20%? Why not choose a 10% dividend counter an chill out. This is not an advisable trading environment and you all know it. Those who stick out their necks, will get their heads chopped off.


and where did you read that the management will keep the divided constant ???? ...thats even dangerous trading !!!!! i read another thread saying we buy stocks for divided...WOW .thats damn risky..one day the directors will wake up and decide to slash tho. THERE'S one constant that an investor can bank on right now. The company's performance, most companies are actually doing well. So its more guaranteed to get a dividend, however capital appreciation in a bear market? All the best
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youcan'tstopusnow
#29 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:04:37 PM
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mwekezaji, if some of those prices print, it will be considered pornography and the censorship board will move in immediately. Especially based on current profit levels

At 4 bob, KK will have a 25% dividend yield (of course assuming the dividend yield of 1 bob per year is MAINTAINED as QW stresses. It is not a given by the way)

When was the last time Member had a 10% dividend yield? Suffciently Philanga Thropic will already be hawking around IF it hits 15-16 levels. I'm keen on how it will behave when it goes sub 17

Centum, I wouldn't be shocked. As is the case for Mumias. I read a recent commentary that with cane supply dwindling so much, the company's operating capacity may drop from 75% to even 60%. They will be hard pressed on replicating profits on that kind of operating level, let alone dividends. Njung'e may have seen down the road (as alwayssmile )

All in all, the agriculturals seem to have weathered the storm this year together with CMC (not too sure if we would be saying that if there was no suspension) and City Trust.
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QW25081985
#30 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:06:07 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
[quote=Aguytrying]All that risk for 20%? Why not choose a 10% dividend counter an chill out. This is not an advisable trading environment and you all know it. Those who stick out their necks, will get their heads chopped off.


and where did you read that the management will keep the divided constant ???? ...thats even dangerous trading !!!!! i read another thread saying we buy stocks for divided...WOW .thats damn risky..one day the directors will wake up and decide to slash tho. THERE'S one constant that an investor can bank on right now. The company's performance, most companies are actually doing well. So its more guaranteed to get a dividend, however capital appreciation in a bear market? All the best


really . which ones ...wow . . hold on, last bear market correction the index jumped 320 points.you want to tell me one cannot make anything out of a 300 point jump ????
well stocks dividends isnt the way to go. better take that money to a casino coz its just like gambling that management will pay a dividend..
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