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Doctors strike
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#51 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 11:24:39 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Dr Dre, Dr. Alfred Mutua, Dr. Willy Mutunga, Dr. Margaret Wanjiru, are they at work???

I know dr willy and dr mutua are at work.
ask dr mutua he will tell you there is no strike. how much does he charge for consultation?
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#52 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 11:26:50 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Dr Dre, Dr. Alfred Mutua, Dr. Willy Mutunga, Dr. Margaret Wanjiru, are they at work???

Dr. James Maina Nganga Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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#53 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 12:34:00 PM
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A 60 year old man has succumbed to pressure complications at the Coast General Hospital. There was no doctor to treat him.
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#54 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 12:39:16 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Dr Dre, Dr. Alfred Mutua, Dr. Willy Mutunga, Dr. Margaret Wanjiru, are they at work???

Add Dr RAO and Dr EMK to that list.
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#55 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 12:42:38 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Dr Dre, Dr. Alfred Mutua, Dr. Willy Mutunga, Dr. Margaret Wanjiru, are they at work???


Mutua and Kiraithe were rendered irrelevant (impotent?) by Col. Ogana, Lt. Col. Nyagah and Maj. ChirchirLaughing out loudly
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#56 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 1:36:05 PM
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Dash wrote:
Any news on whats going on? But I have question, if the doctors get the pay hike and go back to work what will change in the health sector. Are they demanding pay hike only or better facilities and more doctors in the hospital? For example a lone doctor serving thousands in the rural area gets a 150% increase salary wise, but the lab personnel are still not available, the drugs present are only panadols,the nurse is also demoralized due to poor pay and will continue with status quo, there is still no electricity during surgery and gloves are still a rare commodity what happens then?
Do not misunderstand my question by thinking I don't support the doctors but after the pay hike, what next for the health sector? I think they took the wrong approach when talking about salary only, I think they should demand for a complete overhaul in the health sector, after all doesn't the oath state the patient first above all, with this strike, how will the patient as well benefit?


The demands is not only for salary. Please follow the link to see exactly what the Doctors are asking for. LINK
They are asking for equipment, better facilities, training, and salary is the last demand. During discussions with both the ministries of health both ministries had refused to commit to any of the demands including but not limited to salary.

Here is a list of other demands they had made to the ministry in March 2011
KMPDU wrote:
1. That the Ministry of Finance publicly lays out a clear plan of attaining both the WHO recommended health budget allocations and the requirement of the 2001 Abuja declaration.

2. That the Ministry of Finance incorporates into its budget making arm people who firstly think that healthcare provision is important, and secondly know that it is important to give the ordinary mwananchi access to healthcare no less in quality than that which they themselves would expect.

3. That senior officials in Ministry of Finance and their families be compelled to seek treatment exclusively in public facilities to confirm that they have guaranteed, through meaningful budgetary allocation, the quality in these institutions.

4. That in the immediate term, the Ministry of Finance undertakes measures to remedy the undesirable situations occasioned by the careless and dangerous underfunding of the health sector.


To anyone complaining about Doctors asking for a pay would you give them fuel, good, food and services for free because they said they are Doctors??

I hope Dr Alfred Mutua can now go to Hospitals and treat patients.
Dash
#57 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 3:12:57 PM
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@tony stark.asante for the link. Good to know its the overhaul they are fighting for!
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#58 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 3:31:45 PM
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Gud post Tony stark. I am with the doctors. The salaries they draw is not proportional to the work they do their role in society and the hard work it takes to become doctors. A little comfort is not too much to ask for.

Looking at our health facilities, it is clear that the politicians do not attach much importance to the health of kenyans
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#59 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 4:23:26 PM
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@Tony Shark, thanks for the 'rink'.
I think their requests are a bit too many for a strike.. They may need to decide what is key.

All said & done, they need to be paid better.
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#60 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 6:06:18 PM
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Tebes wrote:
Have nurses and COs been enjoined in the strike? These group do the donkey work and are payed a paltry basic salary of Kshs 16,000. In most district hospitals you will be told a dentist will attend patients only on a specific day of the week, an ENT doctor the same. The rest of the time they are running their own clinics. And these group too want a salary raise?

And why do you think this is so? The dentists, ENT surgeons and other highly qualified medical professionals desire to lead a comfortable life just like you and any other professional and not barely survive on the jinga pay that is the government salary. For as long as government pretends to pay its health professionals they will always pretend to work. Period.
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