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josiah33
#21 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 8:58:30 PM
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And it's like the newest republic in the world, the republic of southern sudan, doesn't exists at all.
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Lolest!
#22 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:10:23 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Did anyone read columnist Peter Mwauras article in the Nation?

what did he say?

He was of the opinion that since such a ruling is impractical to implement and would lead to tension, Ombija should have relied on other statutes/conventions that give immunity to diplomats n heads of state to avoid making the ruling he made.
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josiah33
#23 Posted : Sunday, December 04, 2011 4:46:33 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Did anyone read columnist Peter Mwauras article in the Nation?

what did he say?

He was of the opinion that since such a ruling is impractical to implement and would lead to tension, Ombija should have relied on other statutes/conventions that give immunity to diplomats n heads of state to avoid making the ruling he made.

Hmmmmhhh!!! and this is Lukoye Atwoli's point of view- exposing hypocrisy
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YesuWangu
#24 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 7:58:29 AM
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Same script, different cast.

Libya (Kenya) → Nato (Sudan) → impose no fly zone (to cut diplomatic ties) → rats (....)

Spot the difference.

We have been given 2 weeks ultimatum for 'regime change'. Lets watch us pander to this northern whim.


http://www.sudantribune.com/FAC...-singles-out-Kenya,40876Sudan singles out Kenya from among many for retaliation
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KulaRaha
#25 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:00:12 AM
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Two weeks before he stops eating with our leaders...I'm sure there are many guys here shaking in their boots!
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josiah33
#26 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:25:24 AM
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Has Al Bashir given any other Government ultimatums or is it just the kenyan Government?
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Mo
#27 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 10:14:53 AM
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am resigned to the fact that bashir will slam us with the threatened sanctions in 14 days time. so let's plan for the worst;
a) 1000 kenyans kicked from khartoum...mmmh no big deal for me,
b) sudan supports al shabab and al qaeda in somalia...hell has broken loose, but anyway thay have always supported terrorism.
c) Kenya bound or Kenya originating flights denied access to the sudanese air space...i see trouble for the kes, KQ has recently become a very significant forex earner to the economy.

by the way what is the detour route that a plane must take to avoid sudanese airspace? and what are the costs involved? any one in the aviation industry to call it for us?
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josiah33
#28 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 10:36:09 AM
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Mo wrote:
am resigned to the fact that bashir will slam us with the threatened sanctions in 14 days time. so let's plan for the worst;
a) 1000 kenyans kicked from khartoum...mmmh no big deal for me,
b) sudan supports al shabab and al qaeda in somalia...hell has broken loose, but anyway thay have always supported terrorism.
c) Kenya bound or Kenya originating flights denied access to the sudanese air space...i see trouble for the kes, KQ has recently become a very significant forex earner to the economy.

by the way what is the detour route that a plane must take to avoid sudanese airspace? and what are the costs involved? any one in the aviation industry to call it for us?

If you weigh the PROS and CONS of severing ties with Al Bashir, where does the most weight lay? Maybe if we could know the losses and gains we would be able to deal with the STRONGMAN better.
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Pierce
#29 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 10:46:21 AM
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Mo wrote:
am resigned to the fact that bashir will slam us with the threatened sanctions in 14 days time. so let's plan for the worst;
a) 1000 kenyans kicked from khartoum...mmmh no big deal for me,
b) sudan supports al shabab and al qaeda in somalia...hell has broken loose, but anyway thay have always supported terrorism.
c) Kenya bound or Kenya originating flights denied access to the sudanese air space...i see trouble for the kes, KQ has recently become a very significant forex earner to the economy.

by the way what is the detour route that a plane must take to avoid sudanese airspace? and what are the costs involved? any one in the aviation industry to call it for us?


I do not have the figures, but any flight path away from the optimal course would greatly impact fuel costs for the KQ and all other flights to North Africa but more so to Europe and America.KQ and all other carriers to Amsterdam, France,Rome,London,Khartoum and Cairo will be greatly impacted.

BTW, does this mean the KQ share now moves to single digit???Pray
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Mo
#30 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 10:48:09 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
Mo wrote:
am resigned to the fact that bashir will slam us with the threatened sanctions in 14 days time. so let's plan for the worst;
a) 1000 kenyans kicked from khartoum...mmmh no big deal for me,
b) sudan supports al shabab and al qaeda in somalia...hell has broken loose, but anyway thay have always supported terrorism.
c) Kenya bound or Kenya originating flights denied access to the sudanese air space...i see trouble for the kes, KQ has recently become a very significant forex earner to the economy.

by the way what is the detour route that a plane must take to avoid sudanese airspace? and what are the costs involved? any one in the aviation industry to call it for us?

If you weigh the PROS and CONS of severing ties with Al Bashir, where does the most weight lay? Maybe if we could know the losses and gains we would be able to deal with the STRONGMAN better.

Kenya entered the ICC treaties on her own willful volition!! they knew the burden that the law required them to do!!! why we crying foul now??? is this not a self inflicted wound?
Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
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