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Bashir's reprisals?
josiah33
#1 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 9:56:49 PM
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What will kenya lose if her relationship with Khartoum sours? Wentangula talks of some students and a few thousand Kenyans being expelled from Sudan,no flights to and from Khartoum or over Sudan's airspace and no trade ties etc etc. Is there so much to lose really, what's your take on this?
josiah33
#2 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 10:00:09 PM
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What National interests was Wetangula taking care of when he went to sweet talk Bashir?
sparkly
#3 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 10:17:48 PM
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Wetangula is a diplomatic greenhorn.

Surely he must be aware that Khartoum regime is a pariah and has been for a long time.

It has supported terrorism and fundamentalism for eons, having hosted Carlos the Jackal, Osama Bin Laden and god knows who else. There is a warrant out for Al Bashir.

Clinton bombed some facilities for manufacturing chemo and bio weapons.

Simply put, Khartoum is an isolated state. You gain nothing by befriending or appeasing Khartoum and you have a reputation to lose!
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josiah33
#4 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 10:22:45 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Wetangula is a diplomatic greenhorn.

Surely he must be aware that Khartoum regime is a pariah and has been for a long time.

It has supported terrorism and fundamentalism for eons, having hosted Carlos the Jackal, Osama Bin Laden and god knows who else. There is a warrant out for Al Bashir.

Clinton bombed some facilities for manufacturing chemo and bio weapons.

Simply put, Khartoum is an isolated state. You gain nothing by befriending or appeasing Khartoum and you have a reputation to lose!

well, well and i heard someone say that Khartoum is important to kenya in matters regional security. What's Khartoum got to do with the current war on Al-Shabaab?
josiah33
#5 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 10:42:56 PM
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Maybe this could explain why Wentangula &co are so scared DIPLOMATIC SPAT
freiks
#6 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 11:10:20 PM
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Some of us are just looking at this issue lightly, already I know 2 guys who were going to Abyei region on an international organisation posting to be stopped on the airport as a directive from the headquarters that till kenya and sudan solve the problem no staff should go there, fortunately after wetangula's intervention they have been allowed to proceed but to work from Entebbe for the time being. Kenyan economy depends on diaspora thats why we should foster good relations and not activism
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simonkabz
#7 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 11:27:00 PM
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You cant lose reputation by staying neutral. So net effect, we become the losers. Btw, what is it that kenyans think we gain by throwing stones at our regional states? Feel good factor? Superpower syndrome? Our peacekeepers n workers in darfur were just about to be kicked out. Insignificant? KQ airliners overflying that airspace would have had to detour away fm Sudan meaning additional fuel costs.....simply put, would u rather be in good or bad terms with the neighbour? Do kenyans think sudan has no friends who can also respond in solidality? Can this poor n resourceless Kenya survive in isolation? I feel NIA should be tought as a subject in all sch levels. We need to keep even the devil himself CLOSE, like we have in the last 47yrs, and we lose NOTHING.
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Mr.Wambui
#8 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 8:19:23 AM
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Being neutral is the best thing for Kenya. It has worked for us all these years and we've seen it work for Switzerland. It is not wise to create animosity with your neighbour just because he has a spat with a distant 'friend' of yours.
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Lucid_Iam
#9 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:01:35 AM
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Bashir has now given us two weeks to 'behave' http://www.sudantribune....ir-gives-Kenya-two,40892
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#10 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:42:00 AM
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[quote=Lucid_Iam]Bashir has now given us two weeks to 'behave' http://www.sudantribune....r-gives-Kenya-two,40892[/quote]

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