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2012
#1 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 10:54:30 AM
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Question:
You secure a loan from a credible bank on the strength of the now 'fake' title as collateral, being a normal Kenyan you do the only normal thing and tell the bank to auction the land to recover their money.

a) Will the bank still come after you?

b) Will you be blacklisted on the Credit Reference Bureau records?

BBI will solve it
:)
kimiri
#2 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 11:00:08 AM
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Yes to both queries
YesuWangu
#3 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 11:15:45 AM
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kimiri wrote:
Yes to both queries


Unfair!

They have got the collateral. That is what the agreement that you signed says, isn't it? Unless you signed another one...Pray
githundi
#4 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 11:36:44 AM
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kimiri wrote:
Yes to both queries

how in 1.
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Gathige
#5 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 12:13:14 PM
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@2012

As Kamiri says, its yes to both.

You would have obtained money "by false pretense" by purporting to have a title when in actual sense you do not have one. The bank will chase you and then you can chase whoever sold the "fake" land to you.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Impunity
#6 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 12:19:37 PM
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Gathige wrote:
@2012

As Kamiri says, its yes to both.

You would have obtained money "by false pretense" by purporting to have a title when in actual sense you do not have one. The bank will chase you and then you can chase whoever sold the "fake" land to you.


I will run away very fast and the useless bank will not see me again.
Kwani what is the use of the Insurance charge?
Shame on you
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YesuWangu
#7 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 12:39:05 PM
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Gathige wrote:
@2012

As Kamiri says, its yes to both.

You would have obtained money "by false pretense" by purporting to have a title when in actual sense you do not have one. The bank will chase you and then you can chase whoever sold the "fake" land to you.


But Gathige, they failed to perform due diligence on their part. They should fire their representative who signed the forms.

Is the customer responsible for the incompetence of their employees?
Gathige
#8 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 3:30:09 PM
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@Impunity,

You can run but not hide! One day they catch up with you so its best to pay what you can. Remember you can acknowledge a debt of 5m and pledge you are only capable of paying 1 bob a month in good faith!
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Impunity
#9 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 5:34:47 PM
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Gathige wrote:
@Impunity,

You can run but not hide! One day they catch up with you so its best to pay what you can. Remember you can acknowledge a debt of 5m and pledge you are only capable of paying 1 bob a month in good faith!


I only qulified to be deducted the amount am currently paying, my salo hasnt increased in the past year.
What now make them think that I can pay an amount higher and still live my bear minimum life?
Shame on you
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erifloss
#10 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 9:00:09 PM
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The loan contract is between you and the bank. You are the one liable not Mlolongo bros or anybody else. Two things or Acts to remember while buying land RTA & RLA and under which you are obtaining the land.
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mukiha
#11 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 9:39:16 PM
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2012 wrote:
Question:
You secure a loan from a credible bank on the strength of the now 'fake' title as collateral, being a normal Kenyan you do the only normal thing and tell the bank to auction the land to recover their money.

a) Will the bank still come after you?

b) Will you be blacklisted on the Credit Reference Bureau records?


I don't think anyone got a loan against that land. I think they got their loans on the strength of their salaries. Therefore, the bank[s] will still chase the borrowers.

Nevertheless, when you place some property as collateral for a loan, bear in mind that should you be unable to pay, the bank will auction your property and if the money raised is not enough to cover the loan balance, the bank can still come after you for the balance. Remember that you borrowed MONEY not PROPERTY!
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Foz00
#12 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 2:10:20 PM
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Banks will set auctioneers on you who will come after everything you own, your sons ben10 t-shirts, your daughters hannah montana, your wife's wedding band all your suits, your inherited land in shagz. best bet divorce your wife and put everything in her name or kids asap
Maitu
#13 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:59:14 PM
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I understand that one is given 3months for non repayment.loan insurance covers 9months.this is the case with SCB
Maitu
#14 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:02:02 PM
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Sorry,meant a grace period of 3months b4 being considered a defaultor
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