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And Now Umoja Plot Owners to buy back
bwenyenye
#1 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:58:59 PM
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What is wrong with land in this country. The Business Daily today has a story of how owners of plots in Umoja face a KSHs 17B to pay to the rightful owner!!! They should pay KShs21m per acre and KShs420K as special damages. The controversial land is 676 acres between the railway line to the north,Kangundo road to the south, New KCC factory to the west and Coca Cola to the east!

Estates in it include civil Servants estate Umoja II estate, Baraka/ Morlem, Sosian Estate next to Jacaranda, Steel Structures Ltd, Benrose Ltd and Kafuri ltd among others.

link; http://www.businessdaily...18/-/oe5fst/-/index.html
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Jus Blazin
#2 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:57:57 PM
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Maybe the apt question should be what was wrong with land in this country, as the wrongs are now coming to light.
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Thiong'o
#3 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:17:01 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
Maybe the apt question should be what was wrong with land in this country, as the wrongs are now coming to light.


and coming to light in every corner of this great republic.
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eboomerang
#4 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:41:00 PM
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The growth in population has caught us unawares and I'm still not aware of any formidable plan how to contain the growth especially from a settlement point of view.

So I guess people have taken it among themselves to go out and find an empty space to occupy. While others see it as an opportunity to sell any empty spaces they can find.

You need to visit rural areas like murang'a and nyeri where land inheritance is rife. In most average homes the subdivision has gone to the extent that the current heir's of the land own between 1-2 acres. They still intend to pass this on to their next of kins. In a few decades you can imagine how it will be if the trend continues.
lovely2010
#5 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:12:52 PM
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I wish people will realize land is not everything! Im too tired of land subdivision...kwani people cant team up and produce food instead of kukata vipande...this is too much. can people get busy and stop depending on inheritance...especially land...
eboomerang
#6 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:25:13 PM
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lovely2010 wrote:
I wish people will realize land is not everything! Im too tired of land subdivision...kwani people cant team up and produce food instead of kukata vipande...this is too much. can people get busy and stop depending on inheritance...especially land...

I'm telling you this may prove to be a big challenge in the near future.

We cannot produce agricultural products in a industrial level anymore in many parts of central province where we have highlands.

Statistically, coffee production has just gone down sharply. Quoting Wikipedia: "Since 1989, production in this East African country fell from about 130,000 thousand metric tons to 50,000 tons in 2009"

Peasant farmers use their only land to feed themselves. While those cooperatives with bigger chunks of land cannot help but sell off the farms and ride the real estate wave.
lovely2010
#7 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 6:30:17 PM
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eboomerang wrote:
lovely2010 wrote:
I wish people will realize land is not everything! Im too tired of land subdivision...kwani people cant team up and produce food instead of kukata vipande...this is too much. can people get busy and stop depending on inheritance...especially land...

I'm telling you this may prove to be a big challenge in the near future.

We cannot produce agricultural products in a industrial level anymore in many parts of central province where we have highlands.

Statistically, coffee production has just gone down sharply. Quoting Wikipedia: "Since 1989, production in this East African country fell from about 130,000 thousand metric tons to 50,000 tons in 2009"

Peasant farmers use their only land to feed themselves. While those cooperatives with bigger chunks of land cannot help but sell off the farms and ride the real estate wave.


Soon we will depend on manna...
jamplu
#8 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 7:34:08 AM
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...we are a greedy nation. We look for the easiest ways to make money cauz the only thing we care for is money it doesn't matter we make that money at whose expense!
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#9 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 7:58:39 AM
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As land pressures rise people will invest in tech and irrigation, areas traditionally characterised as unproductive agriculturally will yield more and more as central highlands convert from farmlands to semi-urban towns.

Anything else and we are doomed
GGK
#10 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 9:36:10 AM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
Maybe the apt question should be what was wrong with land in this country, as the wrongs are now coming to light.


Am surprised not a single Kenyan has called on the Lands Minister to step aside.

Population growth in Kenya is big problem. But the land issues we are facing in urban Kenya is fueled by greed, corruption and poor planning. if we had a good train network operating at reasonable speed between Nairobi and Nakuru, and says it takes on average 1 hr between the two cities, would we need folks to crowd in Nairobi?

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Chokosh
#11 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 10:23:19 AM
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eboomerang wrote:
The growth in population has caught us unawares and I'm still not aware of any formidable plan how to contain the growth especially from a settlement point of view.



Is this not a result of centralization? Whatever happened to the decentralization plan?


Kenyans need to stop being band wagoners and start thinking out of the box.

Look beyond Nairobi. Kenyan growth is dependent on growth from all corners of the country.
eboomerang
#12 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 3:36:42 PM
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Chokosh wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
The growth in population has caught us unawares and I'm still not aware of any formidable plan how to contain the growth especially from a settlement point of view.



Is this not a result of centralization? Whatever happened to the decentralization plan?


Kenyans need to stop being band wagoners and start thinking out of the box.

Look beyond Nairobi. Kenyan growth is dependent on growth from all corners of the country.

True, there is life beyond Nairobi.

I wonder what would happen if this business man attempted to buy land in Kenya. There is probably no law that would hinder him from buying an entire district. http://www.bloomberg.com...to-buy-land-parcel.html

Eric_Nyamu
#13 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:56:24 AM
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you mean they will demolish naivas ???
Impunity
#14 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:06:54 AM
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Eric_Nyamu wrote:
you mean they will demolish naivas ???


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