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CBK's CBR shocker @ 16.5% - Playing Serious Hard Ball?!
the deal
#131 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:23:43 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
the deal wrote:
I have said it here before, the IMF is now in charge of Kenya's monetary & fiscal policy and what you will see going forward are nothing but austerity measures, i support the current squeeze...i think we will see one more rate hike from the IMF before year end!


Your thoughts were right on point as MPC today raises the CBR by 150 basis points. I will be looking for the full statement for more information. At first glance, it appears MPC is simply matching the increase in inflation. We should then expect them to start the easing cycle with the expected decrease in inflation.

However, isn't there a risk that the increase in CBR may itself contribute to an increase in inflation?

Talk of the medicine being almost as debilitating as the disease. Wont it kill the patient?


It was either this or the Kenyan economy would have crashed hard!
the deal
#132 Posted : Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:24:08 PM
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The next thing now is for CBK to suspend all T-Bill and bond auctions for the year and push for the Euro bond.
youcan'tstopusnow
#133 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 11:30:20 AM
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guru267 wrote:

The sooner we realise this the quicker we can tell them to shove their loans up where the sun dont shine..

I don't think it is that easy. These guys have developing countries in a choke hold. Tutaanza kutafutiwa mashida...
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Impunity
#134 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 12:35:37 PM
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the deal wrote:
The next thing now is for CBK to suspend all T-Bill and bond auctions for the year and push for the Euro bond.


Explain how this is possible and how will this help the current situation.
To a layman's level of understanding please, dont use graphs and pie charts.
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tutebeng
#135 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 6:10:48 PM
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CBK has been failing with respect to monetary policy for almost a year now, but most importantly, there is no theoretical link between the causes of inflation and interest rates, and therefore it is no wonder that the increases in the CBR will have many more undesirable consequences than deal with rising inflation. That said, I would not favour a Euro-bond-given our balance of payments position- which is anything from favourable. The answer lies in pursuing mixed economy policies. Manage credit to certain sectors, restructure OMO and reduce inter-mediation role of banks and craft out a set of new taxes-particularly capital gains tax etc. There is no reason to stifle credit to industry in light of the high levels of unemployment in the economy.
erifloss
#136 Posted : Friday, December 02, 2011 8:52:40 PM
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tutebeng wrote:
CBK has been failing with respect to monetary policy for almost a year now, but most importantly, there is no theoretical link between the causes of inflation and interest rates, and therefore it is no wonder that the increases in the CBR will have many more undesirable consequences than deal with rising inflation. That said, I would not favour a Euro-bond-given our balance of payments position- which is anything from favourable. The answer lies in pursuing mixed economy policies. Manage credit to certain sectors, restructure OMO and reduce inter-mediation role of banks and craft out a set of new taxes-particularly capital gains tax etc. There is no reason to stifle credit to industry in light of the high levels of unemployment in the economy.

Restructuring OMO will be the best thing. Increasing the CBR is a double edged sword coz though theoretically inflation is being driven out, status quo remains as its replaced by increased lending rates lumped on consumers. Blame is not only on Ndung'u but guys at FinMin as well. Why not instead of only the 100% ID on new investments they add an incentive of lets say 20% Corporate tax for 3-5yrs for new FDI's China style and reduce the number of licences required + create a one stop shop for the same sort of the IPC but on a grander scale like other countries economic centres. I think with this we'll attract more FDIs and get the Forex we really yearn for, create the much needed employment, if manufacturing firms set up shop we'll partly have reduced our imports etc. What MPC is doing is basically killing SMEs who have been as of recent the economic drivers and employers.
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tutebeng
#137 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 9:20:54 AM
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Erifloss
You are spot on,that the measures being undertaken will kill SMEs' this unfortunately is one thing the planners seem to ignore, however unless policy is focused on employment then the other economic indicators would be difficult to give relevance. The Chinese have been doing some interesting things on economic policy, when growth was threatened they eased monetary supply,and their approach to investments is more welfare enhancing than anything we are doing.
Impunity
#138 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:58:21 AM
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tutebeng wrote:
Erifloss
You are spot on,that the measures being undertaken will kill SMEs' this unfortunately is one thing the planners seem to ignore, however unless policy is focused on employment then the other economic indicators would be difficult to give relevance. The Chinese have been doing some interesting things on economic policy, when growth was threatened they eased monetary supply,and their approach to investments is more welfare enhancing than anything we are doing.


If the FinMin is on Ogambo list, expect the worst and hope for a better.
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the deal
#139 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:19:27 PM
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The problem is there are no real economists on Wazua or the Kenyan Investment scene in General...what i see are bankers/accountants/lawyers...etc...claiming to be economists/analysts...The Kenyan situation is very simple to solve...it requires a 3 pronged approach from the Min of Agric...Min of Fin and then CBK...
guru267
#140 Posted : Saturday, December 03, 2011 2:17:19 PM
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the deal wrote:
The Kenyan situation is very simple to solve...it requires a 3 pronged approach from the Min of Agric...Min of Fin and then CBK...


Nice to see you are finally changing your stance and recognizing other factors ran this economy besides the banking sector..

And FYI there are plenty of economists on wazua/ kenya.. Maybe even more than in Namibia..
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