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EQUITY VERY LOW DEMAND TODAY
josiah33
#41 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:07:28 AM
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As they say cash is king. Maybe he's converting part of his shares to cash before the share dips further to avoid further losses and who knows, he might get in at an even lower price with the same cash and make profit even when the stock appreciate a little.
Eric_Nyamu
#42 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:12:07 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
As they say cash is king. Maybe he's converting part of his shares to cash before the share dips further to avoid further losses and who knows, he might get in at an even lower price with the same cash and make profit even when the stock appreciate a little.


the share traded at highs of 30 bob in jan ...he has the best investment bankers money can get donot you think he would have sold in jan if its to get the stock at a cheaper price ....?????
so he sell the stock at 17 bob to buy back at 12 bob ???? does it make sense..would you do it if it were you ???
josiah33
#43 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:40:10 AM
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Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
As they say cash is king. Maybe he's converting part of his shares to cash before the share dips further to avoid further losses and who knows, he might get in at an even lower price with the same cash and make profit even when the stock appreciate a little.


the share traded at highs of 30 bob in jan ...he has the best investment bankers money can get donot you think he would have sold in jan if its to get the stock at a cheaper price ....?????
so he sell the stock at 17 bob to buy back at 12 bob ???? does it make sense..would you do it if it were you ???

if i had bought the share at 3 bob and the price got to 40 bob and then it started going down, not because the firm's fundamentals are bad, but because of other factors affecting the markets, i would still sell some shares at 15 bob if i thought the share would dip further and try to make some money even in a bear run. I also think he would still have made money if he sold all his shares now because he bought at lower prices than what the shares are going for now, though the profits would be much lower than if he had sold at 40 bob. Well! I don't know much about stock trading but that's my 'two cents worth' as someone else here is wont to say.
Eric_Nyamu
#44 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:57:14 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
As they say cash is king. Maybe he's converting part of his shares to cash before the share dips further to avoid further losses and who knows, he might get in at an even lower price with the same cash and make profit even when the stock appreciate a little.


the share traded at highs of 30 bob in jan ...he has the best investment bankers money can get donot you think he would have sold in jan if its to get the stock at a cheaper price ....?????
so he sell the stock at 17 bob to buy back at 12 bob ???? does it make sense..would you do it if it were you ???

if i had bought the share at 3 bob and the price got to 40 bob and then it started going down, not because the firm's fundamentals are bad, but because of other factors affecting the markets, i would still sell some shares at 15 bob if i thought the share would dip further and try to make some money even in a bear run. I also think he would still have made money if he sold all his shares now because he bought at lower prices than what the shares are going for now, though the profits would be much lower than if he had sold at 40 bob. Well! I don't know much about stock trading but that's my 'two cents worth' as someone else here is wont to say.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you buy a share at 3 bob ...( million of shares mind you ) then watch it go to 30 bob ..then cash out at 17 bob ????
kwani jm ni mwenda wazimu ????
josiah33
#45 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:33:34 AM
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Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
As they say cash is king. Maybe he's converting part of his shares to cash before the share dips further to avoid further losses and who knows, he might get in at an even lower price with the same cash and make profit even when the stock appreciate a little.


the share traded at highs of 30 bob in jan ...he has the best investment bankers money can get donot you think he would have sold in jan if its to get the stock at a cheaper price ....?????
so he sell the stock at 17 bob to buy back at 12 bob ???? does it make sense..would you do it if it were you ???

if i had bought the share at 3 bob and the price got to 40 bob and then it started going down, not because the firm's fundamentals are bad, but because of other factors affecting the markets, i would still sell some shares at 15 bob if i thought the share would dip further and try to make some money even in a bear run. I also think he would still have made money if he sold all his shares now because he bought at lower prices than what the shares are going for now, though the profits would be much lower than if he had sold at 40 bob. Well! I don't know much about stock trading but that's my 'two cents worth' as someone else here is wont to say.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you buy a share at 3 bob ...( million of shares mind you ) then watch it go to 30 bob ..then cash out at 17 bob ????
kwani jm ni mwenda wazimu ????

it's not cashing out as such, it's trying to make good of a bad situation. Why not make some little money even in the worst situation before what you call a bull comes running? Imagine if the sh.100 million he got for the 5 million shares at sh.20 a share bought the same equity shares at 10 bob. He will have 10 million shares(5 million shares more). Then just imagine the share went back to 20 bob, then he would have made an extra sh.100 million and that's not little money. Money can be made even during the worst of times..
Eric_Nyamu
#46 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:41:56 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
As they say cash is king. Maybe he's converting part of his shares to cash before the share dips further to avoid further losses and who knows, he might get in at an even lower price with the same cash and make profit even when the stock appreciate a little.


the share traded at highs of 30 bob in jan ...he has the best investment bankers money can get donot you think he would have sold in jan if its to get the stock at a cheaper price ....?????
so he sell the stock at 17 bob to buy back at 12 bob ???? does it make sense..would you do it if it were you ???

if i had bought the share at 3 bob and the price got to 40 bob and then it started going down, not because the firm's fundamentals are bad, but because of other factors affecting the markets, i would still sell some shares at 15 bob if i thought the share would dip further and try to make some money even in a bear run. I also think he would still have made money if he sold all his shares now because he bought at lower prices than what the shares are going for now, though the profits would be much lower than if he had sold at 40 bob. Well! I don't know much about stock trading but that's my 'two cents worth' as someone else here is wont to say.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you buy a share at 3 bob ...( million of shares mind you ) then watch it go to 30 bob ..then cash out at 17 bob ????
kwani jm ni mwenda wazimu ????

it's not cashing not as such, it's trying to make good of a bad situation. Why not make some little money even in the worst situation before what you call a bull comes running? Imagine if the sh.100 million he got for the 5 million shares at sh.20 a share bought the same equity shares at 10 bob. He will have 10 million shares(5 million shares more). Then just imagine the share went back to 20 bob, the he would have made an extra sh.100 million and that's not little money. Money can be made even during the worst of times..




investors like Jm donot mind price fluctuation ( isn't a trader or even a trading investor )moreso if it wasnot for regulatory purposes he would have added to his holding at 17 bob or lower. to say that jm sells to get in even cheaper and he bought the stock at 3 bob . isnt right...
he also had to sell his stake in a more orderly manner coz it was a large chunk hence he is doing it in phases...nothing alarming here ..
But us kenyans like to twist things into what they arenot
josiah33
#47 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:48:45 AM
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Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Eric_Nyamu wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
As they say cash is king. Maybe he's converting part of his shares to cash before the share dips further to avoid further losses and who knows, he might get in at an even lower price with the same cash and make profit even when the stock appreciate a little.


the share traded at highs of 30 bob in jan ...he has the best investment bankers money can get donot you think he would have sold in jan if its to get the stock at a cheaper price ....?????
so he sell the stock at 17 bob to buy back at 12 bob ???? does it make sense..would you do it if it were you ???

if i had bought the share at 3 bob and the price got to 40 bob and then it started going down, not because the firm's fundamentals are bad, but because of other factors affecting the markets, i would still sell some shares at 15 bob if i thought the share would dip further and try to make some money even in a bear run. I also think he would still have made money if he sold all his shares now because he bought at lower prices than what the shares are going for now, though the profits would be much lower than if he had sold at 40 bob. Well! I don't know much about stock trading but that's my 'two cents worth' as someone else here is wont to say.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you buy a share at 3 bob ...( million of shares mind you ) then watch it go to 30 bob ..then cash out at 17 bob ????
kwani jm ni mwenda wazimu ????

it's not cashing not as such, it's trying to make good of a bad situation. Why not make some little money even in the worst situation before what you call a bull comes running? Imagine if the sh.100 million he got for the 5 million shares at sh.20 a share bought the same equity shares at 10 bob. He will have 10 million shares(5 million shares more). Then just imagine the share went back to 20 bob, the he would have made an extra sh.100 million and that's not little money. Money can be made even during the worst of times..




investors like Jm donot mind price fluctuation ( isn't a trader or even a trading investor )moreso if it wasnot for regulatory purposes he would have added to his holding at 17 bob or lower. to say that jm sells to get in even cheaper and he bought the stock at 3 bob . isnt right...
he also had to sell his stake in a more orderly manner coz it was a large chunk hence he is doing it in phases...nothing alarming here ..
But us kenyans like to twist things into what they arenot

ok, as you say boss. My problem is always thinking aloud and sorry for doing it on wazua. Nice time
madammary
#48 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:09:27 AM
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@Eric_Nyamu i highly doubt that james mwangi wouldn't mind about how the price of equity share flactuates since that's what every investor should worry about. He might not be an investment banker, but he still cares for the share price of whatever share he's invested in. And i highly doubt he wouldn't want to make money out of his investment, that's why he invested in the first place.
sparkly
#49 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:58:11 PM
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I have two theories 1. JM being more of an entrepreneur than an investor has seen the 'next equity'. He is cashing his money to incubate it in the new venture. 2. Its December, time for bonuses... Did i hear yay? JM is expecting bonuses in share options to vest (at ridiculous low price) next year. If he exercises the options with current holdings he will go over the legal limit. Hence the sale... Kill two birds with one stone!
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Jamani
#50 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:42:41 PM
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sparkly wrote:
. 2. Its December, time for bonuses... Did i hear yay? JM is expecting bonuses in share options to vest (at ridiculous low price) next year. If he exercises the options with current holdings he will go over the legal limit. Hence the sale... Kill two birds with one stone!


Yes you heard yay!!!
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