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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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IMHO, Doctors should have their salaries increased. Some here may disagree but they are much more important than these accountants comparing themselves. Also those saying that we need fully equipped hospitals first, picture this: your company has the best accounting software and is ISO certified but as an accountant there your pay is not commensurate with the work you do. How exactly will you perform better? It has to start somewhere and if begins with doctors salaries then so be it. Then, we can demand better equipment and thereafter excellent service. True you will always find a number of those inexperienced "docs" with superiority complexes but that should not stop those doing good from receiving a fair package. “People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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pariah wrote:bird_man wrote:Sadly....all that matters in this world is Demand Vs Supply. This applies for doctors,pilots,accountants,lecturers etc....(well apart from MPs since those 2 factors are fixed).
I agree but in this case the govt is the supplier ie determines how man docs are trained in a year and is the biggest consumer as well through public service. Thank God there are more med schools now (even private unis train docs), soon there ll be more doctors in the country and our good brothers wont fel to special or lonely in the noble profession. There s no harm in training more than we need, after all thats how Rwanda is getting teachers from Kenya There is not a country in the world, even the developed countries, that has a saturation of doctors. There shall exist a shortage of doctors as long as the population grows at the alarming rates it is growing at. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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stingo wrote:kangi wrote:Njouze wrote:hey guys, i think some of us are missing the picture here...go to school, work for the gava for like 4-5 years with a promise of a fully govt sponsored masters...apply for masters, pass interview and start school only to be told gava spent your money for fees to pay debts???? so u have to work urself to pay up your fee... start ur classes as u work at Kenyatta hospital for FREE.. those guys are not paid to work at KNH but cant be treated there even for a cold for free...Plus their salaries have not been reviewed even by a bob since 1996... If these guys were not there how many Kenyans would be dead by now..especially those that cannot afford expensive private hospitals??? Seriously the gava needs to style up
@Njouze,  please be honest on this issue of working without pay, as the truth will soon be out. Yes.@ njouze is very right.been a follower of wazua(stockskenya)since 2007 but now i must speak.And the truth is that POSTGRADUATE TRAINEE DOCTORS AT KNH WORK FOR UPTO 5 YRS WITHOUT GETTING A SINGLE CENT FROM KNH I concur. Registrars at KNH are not paid a salary for the duration of their postgraduate medical training. And even after completing the postgraduate training and graduating at uni, the government for the last 3 years has asked them to pay off their university fees, which are deemed in arrears. Got this from the KMPDU facebook page which is organising the doctor's strike: "I'm not sure if this has been brought to KMPDUs attention but Gova has defaulted on fee payment of the Mmed students it sponsored for the past 2 - 3 yrs. Newly qualified consos have been unable to collect their certs from UoN upon graduation until they PAY THE FEES THEMSELVES - worst is, they are still BOUND to serve in public service for 3 yrs and cannot work elsewhere because they have no certificate to prove they've gone through a master's program!!!!" - W.M. "Yup! blackmail... they r the ONLY ones who know you are qualified coz UoN informs them as soon as a "sponsored" student successfully completes the course & punde si punde, u r shafted to the bunduz to perform in your new capacity. You comply, adjust you lifestyle to accommodate your new non-nairobi payslip and hope that in 3 yrs (freedom from the bond/bondage) your fee balance will have been sorted..." - W.M. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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I feel for doctors. They truly deserve better.
Unfortunately gava does not value its professionals. Find out what architects and engineers earn and you'll shed tears.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Doctors at KNH down their tools as effect of the strike starts to be felt. Government seems to have money to refund stolen Kazi Kwa Vijana money, but not enough to pay our doctors. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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Any news on whats going on? But I have question, if the doctors get the pay hike and go back to work what will change in the health sector. Are they demanding pay hike only or better facilities and more doctors in the hospital? For example a lone doctor serving thousands in the rural area gets a 150% increase salary wise, but the lab personnel are still not available, the drugs present are only panadols,the nurse is also demoralized due to poor pay and will continue with status quo, there is still no electricity during surgery and gloves are still a rare commodity what happens then? Do not misunderstand my question by thinking I don't support the doctors but after the pay hike, what next for the health sector? I think they took the wrong approach when talking about salary only, I think they should demand for a complete overhaul in the health sector, after all doesn't the oath state the patient first above all, with this strike, how will the patient as well benefit?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Striking doctors storm Afya House, the Health Ministry headquarters on day one of the industrial action. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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Dash wrote:Any news on whats going on? But I have question, if the doctors get the pay hike and go back to work what will change in the health sector. Are they demanding pay hike only or better facilities and more doctors in the hospital? For example a lone doctor serving thousands in the rural area gets a 150% increase salary wise, but the lab personnel are still not available, the drugs present are only panadols,the nurse is also demoralized due to poor pay and will continue with status quo, there is still no electricity during surgery and gloves are still a rare commodity what happens then? Do not misunderstand my question by thinking I don't support the doctors but after the pay hike, what next for the health sector? I think they took the wrong approach when talking about salary only, I think they should demand for a complete overhaul in the health sector, after all doesn't the oath state the patient first above all, with this strike, how will the patient as well benefit? Self preservation perhaps? “People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Have nurses and COs been enjoined in the strike? These group do the donkey work and are payed a paltry basic salary of Kshs 16,000. In most district hospitals you will be told a dentist will attend patients only on a specific day of the week, an ENT doctor the same. The rest of the time they are running their own clinics. And these group too want a salary raise? "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Dr Dre, Dr. Alfred Mutua, Dr. Willy Mutunga, Dr. Margaret Wanjiru, are they at work??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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