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Doctors strike
kiterunner
#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:35:48 AM
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To reverse the trends GoK needs to set up medical schools in every county, they need to train docs for Africa. The 'hemorrhaging' docs out there form a good part of the diaspora remittances we so proudly refer to from time to time. We can train in excess and supply docs to the world like India and Philippines. The effect would be immense in improving health care in the country both directly and indirectly.

COs play an important role in MoH but I would rather they raised the cut off of students KMTC takes on.

I dont think there s a single career you take on to become rich, but its immoral to pay docs what they earn. Its a wonder they stick around when some countries are falling over themselves to get them
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Impunity
#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:15:47 AM
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Paying a doc 60K after 7 years of book-warming is uncouth, while paying an accountant who spends kindu less than one year in college a similar amount!
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Lolest!
#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:37:45 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Paying a doc 60K after 7 years of book-warming is uncouth, while paying an accountant who spends kindu less than one year in college a similar amount!

If that is what you think, look at what pilots earn vs their training duration.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:59:39 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Paying a doc 60K after 7 years of book-warming is uncouth, while paying an accountant who spends kindu less than one year in college a similar amount!

If that is what you think, look at what pilots earn vs their training duration.

And how much do they spend in that training to CPL standard? The effort n money spent training a doc is equally as high as training pilot. A pilot n a doc therefore deserve a very good pay package.
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willin2learn
#15 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:12:11 PM
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I'm with doctors on this one. They deserve better remuneration. I look forward to the day our MPigs will go on strike. Tuwachuje pap!
bird_man
#16 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:13:41 PM
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Sadly....all that matters in this world is Demand Vs Supply.
This applies for doctors,pilots,accountants,lecturers etc....(well apart from MPs since those 2 factors are fixed).

Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
McReggae
#17 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:20:37 PM
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dossy7 wrote:
kiterunner wrote:
Kenya has 2300 doctors for a 40Million population while the UK has 109000 doctors for a 60Million population. Is it just me or is something really wrong for a long time in our health sector, education sector and policy makers? We need to change this and its not a #tunaomba serikali cry


According to ur stats it means for every doctor we have he/she needs to treat 17391 patients.
Only in Kenya


.....assuming all kenyans are patients huh!!!!
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McReggae
#18 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:22:36 PM
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....halafu waache private practice!!!!
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kangi
#19 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:59:07 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Paying a doc 60K after 7 years of book-warming is uncouth, while paying an accountant who spends kindu less than one year in college a similar amount!

@Impunity, I think its good to separate facts from allegations.The docs without a doubt deserve better pay but no doctor has a gross of 60k as insinuated. Sample this salaries for doctors;
Consultant medical officer
Basic 105,432 94,235
Rent 60,000 40,000
Non Practice 60,000 46,000
Commuter 12,000 12,000
Med. Allow. 1,995 1,740

for the medical doctors who are junior the basic salary could be lower but not below 56k for the basic but the allowances range on that level.But they ought to be compared to the salos of their counterparts in the commonwealth to make it worthwhile the training.If you look at the nurses salary you will literally look the other way and weep.
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McReggae
#20 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:08:52 PM
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kangi wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Paying a doc 60K after 7 years of book-warming is uncouth, while paying an accountant who spends kindu less than one year in college a similar amount!

@Impunity, I think its good to separate facts from allegations.The docs without a doubt deserve better pay but no doctor has a gross of 60k as insinuated. Sample this salaries for doctors;
Consultant medical officer
Basic 105,432 94,235
Rent 60,000 40,000
Non Practice 60,000 46,000
Commuter 12,000 12,000
Med. Allow. 1,995 1,740

for the medical doctors who are junior the basic salary could be lower but not below 56k for the basic but the allowances range on that level.But they ought to be compared to the salos of their counterparts in the commonwealth to make it worthwhile the training.If you look at the nurses salary you will literally look the other way and weep.


I hope after that we do a comparison for all the proffessions!!!!
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