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kiterunner
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:48:26 PM
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Kenya has 2300 doctors for a 40Million population while the UK has 109000 doctors for a 60Million population. Is it just me or is something really wrong for a long time in our health sector, education sector and policy makers? We need to change this and its not a #tunaomba serikali cry
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simonkabz
#2 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:41:05 PM
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Did u include the numerous Clinical Officers (small of the docs) who do most of the doc's work so effectively?
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metabolist
#3 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2011 10:40:48 PM
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#2 Who do most of the work so effectively?

That must be why the life expectancy is only 58 years!
kiterunner
#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:59:05 AM
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I did not include clinical officers here, I have to say I have very little regard for the COs. Some of my high school classmates that ended up to be COs are people that I wouldnt entrust my kid's health with (no disrespect at all) but its an overstatement to claim they do MOs work effectively
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YesuWangu
#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:23:10 AM
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I also thought that clinical officers are strange peoples. I clashed with one the previous week.

The ones I have dealt with have certain airs about them. They think they are on the same level as doctors, in the eyes of the patients.

They want to be worshiped thus, especially by the ladies and feared by the gentlemen. Bure Kabisa attitude!
digitek1
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:43:01 AM
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@kiterunner those are the ones in public. there is quite a number in private
anyway was always told med was a calling...if this gen Ys wanted ksh they picked the wrong course. in med you need at least 15 years of sch n experience to have a chance to get rich
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:12:40 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
@kiterunner those are the ones in public. there is quite a number in private
anyway was always told med was a calling...if this gen Ys wanted ksh they picked the wrong course. in med you need at least 15 years of sch n experience to have a chance to get rich


Medical professionals should be remunerated fairly and in my opinion even slightly higher than most professions. A calling it maybe, but would you rather you or your family be treated by underpaid doctors with low morale who cant afford the same service they are offering in private hospitals?

Its not about getting rich, just do a ratio of doctor to patient in public hospitals and you will understand it better

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simonkabz
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:37:55 AM
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Most do their work quite well. These KMTC graduates may not be as informed as docs, but they are the ones who man health centres esp in the rural areas. And they do the much of the doctor's work esp in regard to common ailments/injuries/maternity and they do it well. That is the reality, and in fact, quite a number are jobless. This country has been hemorrhaging doctors due to poor pay. Im not defending anybody. I would love to hear burning spear's comments on this.

Comparatively, when they say our KDF is small, they forget the relatively large national police force, half of which is paramilitary.
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Marty
#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:50:25 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
@kiterunner those are the ones in public. there is quite a number in private
anyway was always told med was a calling...if this gen Ys wanted ksh they picked the wrong course. in med you need at least 15 years of sch n experience to have a chance to get rich



Yenyewe being a doctor makes sense when it is viewed as a calling. But again I hope they are paid better.

By the way, I thought their professional code of conduct does not allow them to down their tools at the expense of people's lifes?? Any doc in the house??
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:32:30 AM
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kiterunner wrote:
Kenya has 2300 doctors for a 40Million population while the UK has 109000 doctors for a 60Million population. Is it just me or is something really wrong for a long time in our health sector, education sector and policy makers? We need to change this and its not a #tunaomba serikali cry


According to ur stats it means for every doctor we have he/she needs to treat 17391 patients.
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