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Graduate Salaries in Kenya : A Review
kiterunner
#41 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 1:24:13 PM
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Location: Nairobi
new investor wrote:
@ tom boy... if I had to pay rent in Ngara ( close to town) It would be a minimum of 9k for a single room...

Fare to and from Ngara (off peak) is 50/= daily making around 1k

Daily food budget (280 *30)= 8400
2pkts Milk 70
1/2 kg Meat 180
Cabage/spinach 20
Tomatoes 10

Lunch 100 ( Minimum in town)= 2500
Shopping = 5k
Electricity and water bills = 1k

TOTAL MONTHLY REQUIREMENT = 26,900

Anyway where is one meant to get the deficit?

Theft, robbery, terrorism etc

Anyway fellow wazuans, if you have no response to my question about the site, please stop spamming my post.........




I feel your pain new investor, you have a point on underpayment but look on the brighter side, you have a job. Its not too long ago that I could have lived on your 'minimum' monthly expenditure for 3-5 months. What is ailing today's youth (myself included) iss the sense of entitlement we have. The world does not owe us SHIT, we ve got make it work for us, kaa ngumu, lower expectations and work smart
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'user'
#42 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 2:13:11 PM
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For Sport wrote:
You cannot stop people from expressing their opinions

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#43 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 2:27:31 PM
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Joined: 4/1/2010
Posts: 86
Location: Kenya
new investor wrote:
@ tom boy... if I had to pay rent in Ngara ( close to town) It would be a minimum of 9k for a single room...

Fare to and from Ngara (off peak) is 50/= daily making around 1k

Daily food budget (280 *30)= 8400
2pkts Milk 70
1/2 kg Meat 180
Cabage/spinach 20
Tomatoes 10

Lunch 100 ( Minimum in town)= 2500
Shopping = 5k
Electricity and water bills = 1k

TOTAL MONTHLY REQUIREMENT = 26,900

Anyway where is one meant to get the deficit?

Theft, robbery, terrorism etc

Anyway fellow wazuans, if you have no response to my question about the site, please stop spamming my post.........



Am thinking, why would you spend like you have no tomorrow?
new investor
#44 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:30:06 PM
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Posts: 118
Wazuans your comments are hilarious

Are you saying I should not live in a house ( Nisilipe rent)

Not eat food( To eliminate the food bill)

And I forgot to indicate I have two small children....the minimum governmet wage for househelp is 7586....

So if I paid her first, I would not even feed my family.

Are some people not meant to live??? And when I married a rich man they call me a gold digger!!!
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#45 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:32:52 PM
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@ kiterunner,

Please demonstrate to wazuans how you can use 15000, working in CBD, having a housegirl, and paying school fees for two kids plus feeding all of them. Practically (20 mks)
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#46 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:31:32 PM
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2012 wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
In my small sphere of work, I get better value from technicians out of polytechnics, better accounts staff from CPA graduates. I have been hugely disappointed by the so called graduates seconded to me.


That's very true! It's because our national universities teach 1970 theories while poly teaches practical and application and I think that's why most university graduates are employees.


Read this post and you will understand why SOME graduates in this country are unemployable.

http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=15433
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kiterunner
#47 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 12:46:21 AM
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Location: Nairobi
new investor wrote:
@ kiterunner,

Please demonstrate to wazuans how you can use 15000, working in CBD, having a housegirl, and paying school fees for two kids plus feeding all of them. Practically (20 mks)



I am not sure i can but here s my story

Firstly I dont have kids till when i wil be able to support a family so when i got my first entry level job i dint need a maid. I cleared campus a few years back, when I came to hustle in Nai I took a room for sh. 2500 in outskirts of Nairobi with a former school mate. We were supported by our respective families and kept everything to a minimum. (I remember days when we would chill at bus stop waiting for fare to come down) I see your budget you have nyama, a soc for lunch........ hustling in our times was a whole different game. My first job I was paid so little that I am embarassed to call it payment. I am sure things are a lot expensive now with inflation but if i were you i would try to live within my means though i know its easier said than done.
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2 Miles
#48 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:12:32 AM
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First , they is too much generalization here. There is a general attitude from the comments posted on this thread that graduates are lazy , inept and have a superiority complex. This is untrue. Just like in any field or environment, performance levels are different.

If you know how the Kenyan system of education works, entrance to university is on merit. And am talking about module 1. The Kenyan system of education is one of elimination and is about survival. That is why, few excel to go to good secondary schools and fewer excel to join university admission. But of course there are exceptions.

To go through the university system , especially for a regular student, is good training ground. Besides the education, you get to interact with many students from diverse backgrounds. Generally there is more exposure. Look at the celebrations on graduation days - relatives travel from far because they understand what their son or daughter has gone through. Most graduates have honestly earned their paper.

To pay a graduate badly should in fact be made a crime. Some of these companies are headed by graduates themselves, and yet go ahead to misuse young Kenyans. To expect a graduate to be perfect in his work immediately after recruitment is unrealistic. That is why companies invest a lot in training. Deloitte does that.

Companies are making too much money. Look at the profits banks announce. You then hear what they pay some of their employees you get shocked. SHAME ON YOU!

There are arguements of demand and supply. There is no problem with that. But you wonder why companies are having a crazy staff turnover. You pay some graduate peanuts. He will take it. But when he gets a better offer, he will move so fast and leave you there complaining about graduates.

Gordon Gekko
#49 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 2:09:45 PM
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@2 Miles, you have raised an important point - module 1. I assume your point is that if module <> 1 then we are dealing with self important lazy louts. If so, can we get universities putting on the certificate which module it is so we spare ourselves all the hear aches?
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#50 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 5:35:14 PM
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Maybe @new investor is right. But should 50k be the benchmark? How did you arrive at 50 and not 30 or 100?
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