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Alshabab want to Negotiate with Kenya.
poundfoolish
#21 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 11:01:10 AM
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I mentioned it .. and the Assistant minister Onyonka has confirmed it..

we tactically allowed Some Somalis to own up property in Kenya whose exact location and owners are known.. thats why they have only managed two firecrackers..

we are now threatening the same fellows on capturing their main source of income, Kismayu..from which they then come to invest in Kenya. They know pretty well they cannot invest in Ethiopia, Rwanda or Yemeni not even in Egypt.. they can only invest here..
The day anything major blows up in Nairobi.. something will blow up in eastleigh and also downtown river road.. and Kismayu will also bellow some smoke..

After Osama, there are no religious wars.. its all about controlling resources.. that includes the Taliban, Mujahideen etc etc
Elder
#22 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 11:25:15 AM
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selah wrote:
I Have spoken to several Muslim friends of mine and I kind of sense they are very sympathetic to the alshabab,whenever this topic of alshabab arises we tend to argue alot and in most cases they seem to defend them or seem to discourage kenyas invasion.

The point am making is although we might win the battle we should be very careful not to loose the war,The ideological strength of alshabab should be counteracted with equal or more powerful ideological paradigm shift.We need to neutralize the strength they have in recruiting new members,members who in most cases come from rich and well to do families and countries.


Maybe you need to change your friends. The Muslims I have talked to, friends and otherwise, have neither sympathy nor time for al shabab regardless of their position on the invasion of Somalia. In my opinion anybody who has any sympathy for al shabab is not any different from them.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
Robinhood
#23 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 11:32:33 AM
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selah wrote:
I Have spoken to several Muslim friends of mine and I kind of sense they are very sympathetic to the alshabab,whenever this topic of alshabab arises we tend to argue alot and in most cases they seem to defend them or seem to discourage kenyas invasion.

The point am making is although we might win the battle we should be very careful not to loose the war,The ideological strength of alshabab should be counteracted with equal or more powerful ideological paradigm shift.We need to neutralize the strength they have in recruiting new members,members who in most cases come from rich and well to do families and countries.



Selah, a significant proportion of Muslims are sympathetic to or try to explain away terrorism. That's the reason many celebrated after 911. Of course the celebration turned into horror when they soon realized there would be consequences.

That said, it does seem Al shabab have little support among Somalis and many Muslims in Kenya.
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
Kaigangio
#24 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 11:32:44 AM
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smano wrote:
http://radioalfurqaan.com/4006501058%20Daawo%20Sawirada.html

Cannot tell whether this is also propaganda from the Al Shabbab - you be the judge.

However, if true, then there are many things the State is not telling us


...this is not propagada...the bodies displayed are the AU and the majority are Burudian soldiers. see the link below:

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Mogadishu-massacre-70-AU-troops-killed-20111020

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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