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Alshabab want to Negotiate with Kenya.
selah
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:47:51 AM
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CNN reports indicate the militants want to Talk.

Is the govt willing to negotiate with terrorists, In my opinion they should negotiate and subdivide the country into several states.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:22:02 PM
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selah wrote:
CNN reports indicate the militants want to Talk.

Is the govt willing to negotiate with terrorists, In my opinion they should negotiate and subdivide the country into several states.


Rink??
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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:44:28 PM
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Bus ferrying exams attacked, 8 dead 100km to mandera. Wamalizwe.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:08:31 PM
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Pierce wrote:
selah wrote:
CNN reports indicate the militants want to Talk.

Is the govt willing to negotiate with terrorists, In my opinion they should negotiate and subdivide the country into several states.


Rink??



http://edition.cnn.com/2...a/kenya-somalia-terror/
waiter
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:25:07 PM
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ha ha ha. propaganda from kenyan side.
selah
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:15:31 PM
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Alshabab now says time for talking is over.

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"The time to ask Kenya to stop war has passed. The only option is to fight them. Kenya, you have started the war and so you have to face the consequences," Sheikh Muktar Robow Abu Mansoor, a top al Shabaab official, told a demonstration.

"The Kenyan Mujahideen who were trained by Osama in Afghanistan, stop throwing grenades at buses. We need a huge blow against Kenya. Hand grenades hurled can harm them but we want huge blasts," he told hundreds of people gathered in Elasha, near the capital Mogadishu.


http://af.reuters.com/ar...5E7LR35J20111027?sp=true
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2012
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:17:05 PM
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waiter wrote:
ha ha ha. propaganda from kenyan side.


I don't think it's propaganda. Kismayu port controls billions of $$ and I'm sure they would not want it disrupted, that and the fact that Somali citizens are against the al Shabaab ideology.

BBI will solve it
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:30:31 PM
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2012 wrote:
waiter wrote:
ha ha ha. propaganda from kenyan side.


I don't think it's propaganda. Kismayu port controls billions of $$ and I'm sure they would not want it disrupted, that and the fact that Somali citizens are against the al Shabaab ideology.



If the story was true, it would have prompted various reactions especially with the Security agencies. Saitoti and Hajj would be crumbling at the press desk out shinning each other as a milestone. But for a benefit of doubt, what would they lay at the table as their terms??
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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:40:47 PM
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http://radioalfurqaan.co...20Daawo%20Sawirada.html

Cannot tell whether this is also propaganda from the Al Shabbab - you be the judge.

However, if true, then there are many things the State is not telling us
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:03:35 PM
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smano wrote:
http://radioalfurqaan.com/4006501058%20Daawo%20Sawirada.html

Cannot tell whether this is also propaganda from the Al Shabbab - you be the judge.

However, if true, then there are many things the State is not telling us

OMG!!! who are all those lying dead???
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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:14:08 PM
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FancyFace wrote:
smano wrote:
http://radioalfurqaan.com/4006501058%20Daawo%20Sawirada.html

Cannot tell whether this is also propaganda from the Al Shabbab - you be the judge.

However, if true, then there are many things the State is not telling us

OMG!!! who are all those lying dead???
I hope sio jeshi letu Pray Pray Pray someone translate the link...PrayI hope hii ni propaganda from al shabbabPray

Al Shaabab had claimed they were the Rwandan AU soldiers they had killed.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:28:36 PM
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Propaganda. They only killed 6 AU soldiers.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:59:11 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Propaganda. They only killed 6 AU soldiers.

And you know this how?
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simonkabz
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:06:46 PM
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Elder wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Propaganda. They only killed 6 AU soldiers.

And you know this how?

AU explained so. Bt maybe they also lied.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:12:21 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Elder wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Propaganda. They only killed 6 AU soldiers.

And you know this how?

AU explained so. Bt maybe they also lied.

That's the point.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:35:08 PM
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10 AU soldiers were killed, 2 MIA. And since the ALS assertion never got any media attention, Im skeptical of its materiality. But nowadays anything goes.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:15:52 PM
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Well, war is both psychological and physical. Both sides are obviously peddling propaganda....an old war tactic.

My fear is that we are getting too deep into this. I still again maintain that we cannot afford a 6month war with these idiots. We should just push them back and secure the border. otherwise Somali is a big and complex problem that we can't solve. Let them find a solution peke Yao! More attention should paid to our little mogandishu and the naturalized al shabbab in our midst....the stupid Oliachas!!
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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:25:08 PM
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Objective of the Kenyan cabinet: capture Kismayu (the archilles heel) n hand it over to AU, destroy ALS structure n weapons. If this succeeds, I see a dead or severely weakened ALS whose recovery n reorganization may take 4eva.
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#19 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 5:12:44 AM
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[quote=selah]Alshabab now says time for talking is over.

Quote:
"The time to ask Kenya to stop war has passed. The only option is to fight them. Kenya, you have started the war and so you have to face the consequences," Sheikh Muktar Robow Abu Mansoor, a top al Shabaab official, told a demonstration.

"The Kenyan Mujahideen who were trained by Osama in Afghanistan, stop throwing grenades at buses. We need a huge blow against Kenya. Hand grenades hurled can harm them but we want huge blasts," he told hundreds of people gathered in Elasha, near the capital Mogadishu.


http://af.reuters.com/ar...E7LR35J20111027?sp=true[/quote]

Ha!ha!ha! dragging Osama's name in this theatre to try and instill fear Ha!ha!ha! what a piece of crap you are. U guys are not anywhere near Alqaida.you cant even feed your own people. you started this war not Kenyans and by the way Kenyans are aware of Bomb blasts..they've been through that shit before so dont think you are talking to virgin victims they know the consequences first hand!!
selah
#20 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 10:46:25 AM
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I Have spoken to several Muslim friends of mine and I kind of sense they are very sympathetic to the alshabab,whenever this topic of alshabab arises we tend to argue alot and in most cases they seem to defend them or seem to discourage kenyas invasion.

The point am making is although we might win the battle we should be very careful not to loose the war,The ideological strength of alshabab should be counteracted with equal or more powerful ideological paradigm shift.We need to neutralize the strength they have in recruiting new members,members who in most cases come from rich and well to do families and countries.

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