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UK govt to protect African gays
Kratos
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:43:45 PM
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groupielove wrote:
Sure wrote:
groupielove wrote:
[quote=jasonhill]
This is a very shallow way of looking at things. If Brits protect those that are persecuted and discriminated due to their sexual orientation, it is in no means telling you to divorce and become gay. I do wonder what makes some people let the hell loose whenever homosexuality is mentioned as if it is a religion seeking converts. If you arent gay. . . live and let live...otherwise pilipili usiyoila, yakuwashiani'?


Think of the moral implication of your argument. If the homos are around to do their thing openly with impunity, youngsters are likely to experiment. I did experiment with lesbianism in highschool because others were doing it openly. If it takes persecution to stop a vice from spreading, let it be. You exterminate a few wayward citizens for the greater good to the society. That is why lynching is a virtue, as far as the victim was the culprit. Others who would have dremt of a career in thuggery, homosexuality and the likes wuld be dissuaded.



Groupielove, your name sounds interesting but not very encouraging.


This is what I call misconception. But Let me clarify some nortions people think about Homosexuals here:
1. Sexual orientation can not be caught or taught "fears of catching homosexuality, or of being recruited at school or elsewhere are utterly without scientific foundation."
~ Dr. Jack Weinberg, President American Psychiatric Association,
October 6, 1977.



2. Sexual orientation is not a choice. Sexual orientation is deep-seated and not something one chooses to be or not to be.
~ Dr. Alan P. Bell, senior author of "Sexual Preference", Bell, Weinberg & Hammersmith, Indiana University Press, 1981.

3.Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early in the life cycle, possibly even before birth. ~ Taken from the American Psychological Association Statement on
Sexual Orientation, July, 1994.



4. It is believed that there are several factors which determine sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is likely to be the result of several different factors, including genetic, hormonal, and environmental. None of these factors alone are responsible for determining sexual orientation. Psychological and social influences alone cannot cause homosexuality. "There is evidence that parents have very little influence on the outcome
of their children's sexual orientation under normal upbringing conditions."
~June Machover Reinisch, Ph.D. (Response from brochure) "Why is My
Child Gay?" Federation of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays,

Inc., 1988.
5.Gays & lesbians discover their sexual orientation. They are not recruited or brainwashed into the "gay lifestyle". Gay and lesbian children are often aware of being different at a very early
age. They generally become aware of their sexual orientation during adolescence or early adulthood.
~ R.R. Troiden, "The Formation of Homosexual Identities", The Journal
of Homosexuality, 17, 43-73.



6. Homosexuality is not a mental or emotional disorder. The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of
our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals.
~ The American Psychiatric Association and The American Psychological
Association, July 1994



7. Efforts to change sexual orientation are ineffective and can be harmful. Research findings suggest that efforts to repair homosexuals are
nothing more than social prejudice garbed in psychological accouterments. ~ Taken from the American Psychological Association Statement on
Sexual Orientation, July, 1994.


8. No scientific evidence exists to support the effectiveness of any therapies that attempt to convert homosexuals to heterosexuals.
~ John C. Gonsiorek and James D. Weinrich, eds., Homosexuality:
Research Implications for Public Policy, Newbury Park, Calf.: Sage, 1991.
9. All attempts fail when gay people try to become heterosexual. ~D. C. Haldeman, "The Practice and Ethics of Sexual Orientation Conversion
Therapy", Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62, p.221-227, 1994.

10. "Groups who try to change the sexual orientation of people through so-called
conversion therapy are misguided and run the risk of causing a great deal of psychological harm to those they say they are trying to help."
~Dr. Raymond Fowler, American Psychological Association Executive Director

11. Clinical experience suggests that any person who seeks conversion therapy may be doing so because of social bias that has resulted in internalized homophobia, and that gay men and lesbians who have accepted their sexual orientation positively are better adjusted than those who have not done so.
~American Psychiatric Association

(All sources cited in full)

Who would wish to be gay when the whole society downlooks upon them, when it so risky to do so, and when it is condemned in every almost all cultures and religions? What if majority of people were gays and you just find yourself attracted to the opposite? This is exactly what they gays are. . . they simply don't get sexual attraction from the opposite (being homosexual is an orientation not a practice - so there are gay virgins, nuns priests etc). Gay and lesbian people are just as capable of being good parents as are heterosexual parents.


Hawa ni akina nani? Any Africans there? As an African i believe we don't have to ape western/American culture just to be politically correct. Wacha tuwaachie mambo ya kufunguliwa boot.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Njung'e
#22 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 1:44:04 PM
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Homosexuallity is a way of expressing love??......hahahahahaha!!...Do you believe it yourself?.That by screwing my a** you are loving?....There are also those who screw cows and goats!!...Are they expressing love too??...My man,it's a preference and stop reading those reseach papers by the same idiots who want to with-hold grants and aid simply because i am not screwing your a**.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
jasonhill
#23 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:01:11 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Homosexuallity is a way of expressing love??......hahahahahaha!!...Do you believe it yourself?.That by screwing my a** you are loving?....There are also those who screw cows and goats!!...Are they expressing love too??...My man,it's a preference and stop reading those reseach papers by the same idiots who want to with-hold grants and aid simply because i am not screwing your a**.


Is this the meaning of the saying "love hurts"?

Liar

Oh yes, that thug with the AK is going to steal your money and your car, but to make it up to you and to make amends, he will show you some love... that's all it is, just a little love.

Ridiculous!

Euge
#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:02:49 PM
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Location: Rupi
Is the UK govt also providing diapers in addition to the protection?
Lord, thank you!
jasonhill
#25 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:06:23 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Euge wrote:
Is the UK govt also providing diapers in addition to the protection?


Nope. But they have agreed to supply a limited supply of faulty condoms and cooking fat.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
masukuma
#26 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:08:26 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
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Location: Nairobi
Kratos wrote:
groupielove wrote:
Sure wrote:
groupielove wrote:
[quote=jasonhill]
This is a very shallow way of looking at things. If Brits protect those that are persecuted and discriminated due to their sexual orientation, it is in no means telling you to divorce and become gay. I do wonder what makes some people let the hell loose whenever homosexuality is mentioned as if it is a religion seeking converts. If you arent gay. . . live and let live...otherwise pilipili usiyoila, yakuwashiani'?


Think of the moral implication of your argument. If the homos are around to do their thing openly with impunity, youngsters are likely to experiment. I did experiment with lesbianism in highschool because others were doing it openly. If it takes persecution to stop a vice from spreading, let it be. You exterminate a few wayward citizens for the greater good to the society. That is why lynching is a virtue, as far as the victim was the culprit. Others who would have dremt of a career in thuggery, homosexuality and the likes wuld be dissuaded.



Groupielove, your name sounds interesting but not very encouraging.


This is what I call misconception. But Let me clarify some nortions people think about Homosexuals here:
1. Sexual orientation can not be caught or taught "fears of catching homosexuality, or of being recruited at school or elsewhere are utterly without scientific foundation."
~ Dr. Jack Weinberg, President American Psychiatric Association,
October 6, 1977.



2. Sexual orientation is not a choice. Sexual orientation is deep-seated and not something one chooses to be or not to be.
~ Dr. Alan P. Bell, senior author of "Sexual Preference", Bell, Weinberg & Hammersmith, Indiana University Press, 1981.

3.Research suggests that the homosexual orientation is in place very early in the life cycle, possibly even before birth. ~ Taken from the American Psychological Association Statement on
Sexual Orientation, July, 1994.



4. It is believed that there are several factors which determine sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is likely to be the result of several different factors, including genetic, hormonal, and environmental. None of these factors alone are responsible for determining sexual orientation. Psychological and social influences alone cannot cause homosexuality. "There is evidence that parents have very little influence on the outcome
of their children's sexual orientation under normal upbringing conditions."
~June Machover Reinisch, Ph.D. (Response from brochure) "Why is My
Child Gay?" Federation of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays,

Inc., 1988.
5.Gays & lesbians discover their sexual orientation. They are not recruited or brainwashed into the "gay lifestyle". Gay and lesbian children are often aware of being different at a very early
age. They generally become aware of their sexual orientation during adolescence or early adulthood.
~ R.R. Troiden, "The Formation of Homosexual Identities", The Journal
of Homosexuality, 17, 43-73.



6. Homosexuality is not a mental or emotional disorder. The research on homosexuality is very clear. Homosexuality is neither mental illness nor moral depravity. It is simply the way a minority of
our population expresses human love and sexuality. Study after study documents the mental health of gay men and lesbians. Studies of judgment, stability, reliability, and social and vocational adaptiveness all show that gay men and lesbians function every bit as well as heterosexuals.
~ The American Psychiatric Association and The American Psychological
Association, July 1994



7. Efforts to change sexual orientation are ineffective and can be harmful. Research findings suggest that efforts to repair homosexuals are
nothing more than social prejudice garbed in psychological accouterments. ~ Taken from the American Psychological Association Statement on
Sexual Orientation, July, 1994.


8. No scientific evidence exists to support the effectiveness of any therapies that attempt to convert homosexuals to heterosexuals.
~ John C. Gonsiorek and James D. Weinrich, eds., Homosexuality:
Research Implications for Public Policy, Newbury Park, Calf.: Sage, 1991.
9. All attempts fail when gay people try to become heterosexual. ~D. C. Haldeman, "The Practice and Ethics of Sexual Orientation Conversion
Therapy", Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62, p.221-227, 1994.

10. "Groups who try to change the sexual orientation of people through so-called
conversion therapy are misguided and run the risk of causing a great deal of psychological harm to those they say they are trying to help."
~Dr. Raymond Fowler, American Psychological Association Executive Director

11. Clinical experience suggests that any person who seeks conversion therapy may be doing so because of social bias that has resulted in internalized homophobia, and that gay men and lesbians who have accepted their sexual orientation positively are better adjusted than those who have not done so.
~American Psychiatric Association

(All sources cited in full)

Who would wish to be gay when the whole society downlooks upon them, when it so risky to do so, and when it is condemned in every almost all cultures and religions? What if majority of people were gays and you just find yourself attracted to the opposite? This is exactly what they gays are. . . they simply don't get sexual attraction from the opposite (being homosexual is an orientation not a practice - so there are gay virgins, nuns priests etc). Gay and lesbian people are just as capable of being good parents as are heterosexual parents.


Hawa ni akina nani? Any Africans there? As an African i believe we don't have to ape western/American culture just to be politically correct. Wacha tuwaachie mambo ya kufunguliwa boot.

wewe wacheni...gay rights are human WHITES!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
jasonhill
#27 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:18:27 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL, USA
The Brits demand, in order to help protect the environment, that on all African golf courses, all putts be performed from the rough.

The Brits demand that all boots be inspected when coming across African borders. That's boarders actually. Roommates too.

The Brits demand control of all African air traffic in order to direct all aircraft to land with flaps fully down into tailwind.

The Brits demand "good rubbernance".

The Brits announce the intent to outsource the packing of fudge to Africa as a BPO process.

The Brits demand a "good", "proper", English, non-African first name for all African males: NANCY.

Happy Tuesday Everybody. Now get back to work before the boss sees you laughing at your desk.

Best,

Hill
groupielove
#28 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:36:16 PM
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"Bend over" by itself is not homosexuality since some heteros still do the same. Homosexuality perse is that natural attraction that one feels to the members of the opposite sex (for heterosexuals) or to members of the same sex (for homosexuals). Sex is a different thing altogether. Just as there are heterosexuals/straights who don't have sex, same case applies to gays.
jasonhill
#29 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:42:43 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL, USA
groupielove wrote:
"Bend over" by itself is not homosexuality since some heteros still do the same. Homosexuality perse is that natural attraction that one feels to the members of the opposite sex (for heterosexuals) or to members of the same sex (for homosexuals). Sex is a different thing altogether. Just as there are heterosexuals/straights who don't have sex, same case applies to gays.


Since you say it isn't about sex, then would you be okay with gay sex being outlawed, but not gay "attraction" as you call it?

And what is "bend over" by itself? Just a form of affection?

Your train of thought is wandering into the perverse. Gayism cannot be natural as you say, because if it was, all gays would have died long ago because they wouldn't be able to procreate. The "gay species" would have died off.

You just can't justify this gayism demon. Trying to do so is turning your mind reprobate.

Best,

Hill
YesuWangu
#30 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:45:28 PM
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Joined: 8/11/2010
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I think groupielove is disoriented (in every sense of the word). He quotes:

groupielove wrote:

2. Sexual orientation is not a choice. Sexual orientation is deep-seated and not something one chooses to be or not to be.
~ Dr. Alan P. Bell, senior author of "Sexual Preference", Bell, Weinberg & Hammersmith, Indiana University Press, 1981.


Then a few sentences later he quotes:
groupielove wrote:

4. It is believed that there are several factors which determine sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is likely to be the result of several different factors, including genetic, hormonal, and environmental. None of these factors alone are responsible for determining sexual orientation. Psychological and social influences alone cannot cause homosexuality. "There is evidence that parents have very little influence on the outcome
of their children's sexual orientation under normal upbringing conditions."
~June Machover Reinisch, Ph.D. (Response from brochure) "Why is My
Child Gay?" Federation of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays,
Inc., 1988.


If he were not disoriented he would have noted that the two references are in conflict. If sexual (dis)orientation is not something one chooses to be or not to be then how now can sexual (dis)orientation be the result of different factors including genetic, hormonal and environmental?

Homosexuality is chosen, influenced, induced and copied from ones environment. Groupielove should have noted that.

Groupielove is in serious need of reorientation and rehabilitation.

They start here.
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