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5% of Kenya's soldiers must be disabled!
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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In addition, at least 33% must be women. I have lost all respect for this Nyachae fellow. This is ridiculous, outrageous....Did he also say that the pregnant mustn't be sidelined during recruitment? Is this guy of sound mind??? TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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IT is called Political Correctness. BK!!! It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt... -Mark Twain
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2006 Posts: 143
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@Kabz, I too was like, "is this guy serious". He behaves like the "Mr-know-it-all" in all matters constitution and for once i doubt this commission mandate. If he could have taken time to familiarize with basic some military SOPs document, i'm aware he could not have sounded this naive and ignorant.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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This is the trouble with these NGO types. It is even worse when they write a constitution for you Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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its a joke! a bad one. A blind sniper? Wheelchairs in the infantry? Imagine a scenario in a firing range when someone always misses the target. the trainer cannot retort to asking them - "HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT? ARE YOU BLIND?"....they may just as well be! Do they think people have the time to issue instructions (and abuses) e.t.c in Braille and sign language? The army is an insurance policy. you need it just incase someone desires to attack. Next time they will not have a minimum requirement....i mean, why should they? Anyone can be in the army - why should a person with a E be discriminated against because of his mental aptitude? Why should a person who is obviously overweight and can't run for 5 meters without collapsing and dying be denied the right to serve his country? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:its a joke! a bad one. A blind sniper? Wheelchairs in the infantry? Imagine a scenario in a firing range when someone always misses the target. the trainer cannot retort to asking them - "HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT? ARE YOU BLIND?"....they may just as well be! Do they think people have the time to issue instructions (and abuses) e.t.c in Braille and sign language? The army is an insurance policy. you need it just incase someone desires to attack. Next time they will not have a minimum requirement....i mean, why should they? Anyone can be in the army - why should a person with a E be discriminated against because of his mental aptitude? Why should a person who is obviously overweight and can't run for 5 meters without collapsing and dying be denied the right to serve his country? Would you mind to do some investigations about the US army then get back to us on how everybody can be involved in the noble duty of being our soldiers.I wouldn't mind giving you a link if asked to.N by the way what about those fat overfed lazy bones(Not all of course)i come across when i visit our military barracks. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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masukuma wrote:its a joke! a bad one. A blind sniper? Wheelchairs in the infantry? Imagine a scenario in a firing range when someone always misses the target. the trainer cannot retort to asking them - "HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT? ARE YOU BLIND?"....they may just as well be! Do they think people have the time to issue instructions (and abuses) e.t.c in Braille and sign language? The army is an insurance policy. you need it just incase someone desires to attack. Next time they will not have a minimum requirement....i mean, why should they? Anyone can be in the army - why should a person with a E be discriminated against because of his mental aptitude? Why should a person who is obviously overweight and can't run for 5 meters without collapsing and dying be denied the right to serve his country? . @Article27(4), is one piece of sh*t that cannot be implemented nor is it practicable in all realms of life. In all fairness why are there such procedures as selection/interviews etc? Why do mental aptitude, talent, skill, etc count? Now over to the military and the disciplined forces and you bring in lobbying/activism it can't get anywhere. Look to the "role models", US and Europe and show me a top brass woman general. Or a lame/blind/mentally handicapped soldier.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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...Ati disabled soldiers!!! That is a first!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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This is very difficult to implement but why lambast a man who only read out the provisions of the constitution of the republic of kenYA???? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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Rahatupu wrote:masukuma wrote:its a joke! a bad one. A blind sniper? Wheelchairs in the infantry? Imagine a scenario in a firing range when someone always misses the target. the trainer cannot retort to asking them - "HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT? ARE YOU BLIND?"....they may just as well be! Do they think people have the time to issue instructions (and abuses) e.t.c in Braille and sign language? The army is an insurance policy. you need it just incase someone desires to attack. Next time they will not have a minimum requirement....i mean, why should they? Anyone can be in the army - why should a person with a E be discriminated against because of his mental aptitude? Why should a person who is obviously overweight and can't run for 5 meters without collapsing and dying be denied the right to serve his country? . @Article27(4), is one piece of sh*t that cannot be implemented nor is it practicable in all realms of life. In all fairness why are there such procedures as selection/interviews etc? Why do mental aptitude, talent, skill, etc count? Now over to the military and the disciplined forces and you bring in lobbying/activism it can't get anywhere. Look to the "role models", US and Europe and show me a top brass woman general. Or a lame/blind/mentally handicapped soldier. see http://www.army.mil/women/profiles.html
Gen. Ann E. DunwoodyGen. Ann E. Dunwoody became the first female four-star general in military history and also became the first female to lead a major Army command Nov. 14, 2008. On that date she was promoted in a Pentagon ceremony and later that day she took command of Army Materiel Command headquartered on Fort Belvoir, Va. Approximately 5 percent of general officers in the Army are women, which includes mobilized Army Reserve and Army National Guard general officers. Lt. Gen. Susan S. LawrenceAs the G-6, Lawrence supports the Chief of Staff of the Army and Army Staff in performing information management, network operations (including computer network defense), force structure, and the equipping and employment of signal forces. Brig. Gen. Colleen L. McGuireBrig. Gen. Colleen L. McGuire assumed responsibility as the first female provost marshal general of the Army and also took command of the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command in January 2010. During nearly 30 years of active service, she has been assigned in key command and staff billets from platoon level to the Army staff. Lt. Gen. Claudia KennedyLt. Gen. Claudia Kennedy was the first woman to achieve and hold the rank of lieutenant general. Her promotion also led to her being named the Army Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, G-2. Brigadier General Coral Pietsch Brig. Gen. Coral PietschThe first-ever female general officer in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Brig. Gen. Coral Pietsch was also the first female Asian-American general officer in the U.S. Army. When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Keraka has been an activist on wazua oozing some armchair theories on matters he has no clue about. IGNORE. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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kingfisher wrote:Rahatupu wrote:masukuma wrote:its a joke! a bad one. A blind sniper? Wheelchairs in the infantry? Imagine a scenario in a firing range when someone always misses the target. the trainer cannot retort to asking them - "HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT? ARE YOU BLIND?"....they may just as well be! Do they think people have the time to issue instructions (and abuses) e.t.c in Braille and sign language? The army is an insurance policy. you need it just incase someone desires to attack. Next time they will not have a minimum requirement....i mean, why should they? Anyone can be in the army - why should a person with a E be discriminated against because of his mental aptitude? Why should a person who is obviously overweight and can't run for 5 meters without collapsing and dying be denied the right to serve his country? . @Article27(4), is one piece of sh*t that cannot be implemented nor is it practicable in all realms of life. In all fairness why are there such procedures as selection/interviews etc? Why do mental aptitude, talent, skill, etc count? Now over to the military and the disciplined forces and you bring in lobbying/activism it can't get anywhere. Look to the "role models", US and Europe and show me a top brass woman general. Or a lame/blind/mentally handicapped soldier. see http://www.army.mil/women/profiles.html
Gen. Ann E. DunwoodyGen. Ann E. Dunwoody became the first female four-star general in military history and also became the first female to lead a major Army command Nov. 14, 2008. On that date she was promoted in a Pentagon ceremony and later that day she took command of Army Materiel Command headquartered on Fort Belvoir, Va. Approximately 5 percent of general officers in the Army are women, which includes mobilized Army Reserve and Army National Guard general officers. Lt. Gen. Susan S. LawrenceAs the G-6, Lawrence supports the Chief of Staff of the Army and Army Staff in performing information management, network operations (including computer network defense), force structure, and the equipping and employment of signal forces. Brig. Gen. Colleen L. McGuireBrig. Gen. Colleen L. McGuire assumed responsibility as the first female provost marshal general of the Army and also took command of the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command in January 2010. During nearly 30 years of active service, she has been assigned in key command and staff billets from platoon level to the Army staff. Lt. Gen. Claudia KennedyLt. Gen. Claudia Kennedy was the first woman to achieve and hold the rank of lieutenant general. Her promotion also led to her being named the Army Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, G-2. Brigadier General Coral Pietsch Brig. Gen. Coral PietschThe first-ever female general officer in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Brig. Gen. Coral Pietsch was also the first female Asian-American general officer in the U.S. Army. Thanks Kingfisher. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2006 Posts: 143
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@Keraka...are you quoting the same US army which abolished the DADT policy a fortnight ago? Of coz, as you rightly puts it, I'm not an authority in matters military but at-least my ignorance on the same is not one tonne load.I know there are tens of OOTW duties, but tell me how concerns like one @Rahatupu ask will be addressed
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Anyone with a clue of the no. of US generals in service today, and their capacities, vis ä vis Kenya? TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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I am OK with women in the army - as long as they can hold a gun and shoot people when its required (thats like their JD - right?). Mentally Handicapped? watu wako na mchezo... disability is not inability but disability is not competence either! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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There are 100s of civilians employed by the ministry of Defence (Including the minister himself) and i wish this is where CN wants the 5%.No problem because the civilian staff in MoD will help fight a war behind computers....For the men and women who will fight the war from the fox holes,i really beg to differ.Each must be physically good enough and this includes,the bandsman,cook,medic,dresser and so on.How,pray,are we going to make an easier physical course for those with disabilities??....Let's be honest.The frontline is not for everyone and the army cannot afford to be just another employer like NSSF or NHIF....period! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Imagine an army where half of them are women! Pure crap!! I wonder what Ssevo would say of such nonsence, if he still thinks our male dominated army is inferior. Vita ikitokelezea 'afande niko na mimba'. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:Vita ikitokelezea 'afande niko na mimba'. Legend has it that this is how Wangu wa Makeri regime lost the last war against Gikuyu men Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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masukuma wrote:I am OK with women in the army - as long as they can hold a gun and shoot people when its required (thats like their JD - right?). Mentally Handicapped? watu wako na mchezo... disability is not inability but disability is not competence either! Yes. The military is not only brawns. It needs brains too. It needs to get the smartest dudes around to work for it. Those who will think out the most innovative things, well within the safety of the militarys' most secure fortresses, for the muscle men to execute. What if these smartest dudes are women? Or needs spectacles? But then again, once in a while you come across a tomboy who can match any man out there blow for blow. Such talent must be cupped.
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