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Rank: Member Joined: 8/3/2011 Posts: 197
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McReggae wrote:freids: you think you will cinvince anybody: everybody has a view of the result that is now 4yrs old, just keep your numbers as numbers have been thrown about before: we all know the delayed release to know the exact number to top up....n'way this is a needless argument to start having now!!!! But is good to know the truth. John 8:32 wrote:Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. In Kisumu, dead voters ‘showed up’ at the polls. Link."..one is only poor only if they choose to be.."-Dolly Partron
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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So far lewis nguyai is fixing uhuru. His evidence shows that he has interacted with mungiki to the extent of sending them money and helping their relatives. He's not helping uhuru's case
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Shak wrote:So far lewis nguyai is fixing uhuru. His evidence shows that he has interacted with mungiki to the extent of sending them money and helping their relatives. He's not helping uhuru's case I like this Nguyayi man. He seems to be telling the truth as it is supposed to be. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/27/2010 Posts: 266 Location: Nairobi
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Oh Lewis, why are you undoing UK's sterling performance yesterday?
Why are you erasing smiles za jana?
These witnesses ni disaster.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/13/2008 Posts: 558
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Defence lawyers have guided Nguyai TO ADMIT he met Mungiki, he helped raise funds for IDP's, didnt make the Contact that Mungiki wanted.(With UK) http://www.standardmedia...848&cid=4&ttl=I met mungiki several times, says Uhuru's witness Only time will tell if this is Good or bad for UK.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2011 Posts: 407 Location: Nairobi,Kenya
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Prosecution: Who is the boss mentioned in the text messages? Nguyai: I would only assume that it is Kenyatta. Hope is not a strategy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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Jaina wrote:Defence lawyers have guided Nguyai TO ADMIT he met Mungiki, he helped raise funds for IDP's, didnt make the Contact that Mungiki wanted.(With UK) http://www.standardmedia...848&cid=4&ttl=I met mungiki several times, says Uhuru's witness Only time will tell if this is Good or bad for UK. He has tentatively made sure that UK case goest to full trial.PAP! Having met Mungaiki several times, little is left to doubt. UK now haa a case to respond to. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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witness spoiling. uhuru was better off without nguyai.but as I said the blood of the slain bros and innocent idps,their creator is watching.ocampo may fail but God never fails 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/11/2011 Posts: 240 Location: jamuhuri ya kenya
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the mentioned mungiki are the ones the prosecution is relying on, i think witness 4 and 11 or something close to that. The defence had already painted the two prosecution witnesses as career witnesses, basically extortion witnesses, witnesses without any credibility. This is the line nguyai is tying to paint i.e when the two mungiki did not get their 3M, they decided to jump to the prosecution side
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/13/2008 Posts: 558
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Its more complicated than it seems. If indeed Mungikui had a plan to end the violence, thats the planning that prosecution was trying all along to prove it existed. But now, there is no link between them (Mungiki) and UK yet.
The whole thing now is messy, the messier it gets the more the prosecution either gains or looses. The judges will be left more confused and there will be element of doubt. The verdict will eventully be incomplehensive similar to Krigler's. "We will never Know who actually won"
When it comes to financing. People have admitted contributing to help the IDP's. Myself included. Whether the money went to IDP's or to Mungiki its another story.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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jimmy1 wrote:the mentioned mungiki are the ones the prosecution is relying on, i think witness 4 and 11 or something close to that. The defence had already painted the two prosecution witnesses as career witnesses, basically extortion witnesses, witnesses without any credibility. This is the line nguyai is tying to paint i.e when the two mungiki did not get their 3M, they decided to jump to the prosecution side Thats the point but hapa people will interpret the way they want to so that they can feel good about it.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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'user' wrote:witness spoiling. uhuru was better off without nguyai.but as I said the blood of the slain bros and innocent idps,their creator is watching.ocampo may fail but God never fails
exactly, we all know too well who did nothing as his supporters massacred until he was given nusu mkate. Ocampo already failed.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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I was reading the live text so i missed big chunks. In my view,I think this is a deliberate attempt to have an MP who comes from a Mungiki stronghold come out strongly/openly to say that yes Mungiki exists,yes they made attempt to contact UK,and mention big cash which is supposed to have come from UK through Nguyai but then say that it was hearsay- hence the link is missing.The strategy here seems to be to accept that people retaliated ( a fact) but not to tie UK to it.So sainthood is left out kidogo,paint the picture as it was,but de-link UK hence some credibility.To me it sounds better than saying hajui mungiki Disclaimer: @ Impunity,sio ati niko na kura in the "swing state",i am just giving an opinion so pls don go after my jugular 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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famooz wrote:I was reading the live text so i missed big chunks. In my view,I think this is a deliberate attempt to have an MP who comes from a Mungiki stronghold come out strongly/openly to say that yes Mungiki exists,yes they made attempt to contact UK,and mention big cash which is supposed to have come from UK through Nguyai but then say that it was hearsay- hence the link is missing.The strategy here seems to be to accept that people retaliated ( a fact) but not to tie UK to it.So sainthood is left out kidogo,paint the picture as it was,but de-link UK hence some credibility.To me it sounds better than saying hajui mungiki Disclaimer: @ Impunity,sio ati niko na kura in the "swing state",i am just giving an opinion so pls don go after my jugular  Couldn't have put it better. That was the intention and purpose of having him as a witness.
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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Kratos wrote:famooz wrote:I was reading the live text so i missed big chunks. In my view,I think this is a deliberate attempt to have an MP who comes from a Mungiki stronghold come out strongly/openly to say that yes Mungiki exists,yes they made attempt to contact UK,and mention big cash which is supposed to have come from UK through Nguyai but then say that it was hearsay- hence the link is missing.The strategy here seems to be to accept that people retaliated ( a fact) but not to tie UK to it.So sainthood is left out kidogo,paint the picture as it was,but de-link UK hence some credibility.To me it sounds better than saying hajui mungiki Disclaimer: @ Impunity,sio ati niko na kura in the "swing state",i am just giving an opinion so pls don go after my jugular Couldn't have put it better. That was the intention and purpose of having him as a witness. I also think so coz here is a person confessing that there is mungiki existence but again, fails to link UK. to me,it was a strategy but the most important thing is that no where is mentioned that UK met the jaama. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Impunity wrote:Me I think the people who should be at the Hague are those who stole the votes in 2007; beginning with those who facilitated midnight swearing-in ceremony and the one who accepted to be sworn in at that ridiculous hour.
Thats when njustice will be served.
Othaura falls squarely in this category. Please stick to the facts. There has never been such a ceremony in Kenya - ever!! perhaps you are referring to the one conducted at about 5pm...7 hours BEFORE midnight! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Impunity wrote:freiks wrote: We (Nithi voters) made sure that anybody who had a voters card came out to vote Even if the total tally was more than the total population of the constituency(toddlers and infants included!) by as high as 20%...  Rants of the middle class. I doubt those who post so passionately about the elections even voted. Biggest contribution was drinking phombe and eating mbuzi at the locsl while watching the tally on telly, in open shoes, tshirts and shorts. Kweli au rongo? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:Impunity wrote:Me I think the people who should be at the Hague are those who stole the votes in 2007; beginning with those who facilitated midnight swearing-in ceremony and the one who accepted to be sworn in at that ridiculous hour.
Thats when njustice will be served.
Othaura falls squarely in this category. Please stick to the facts. There has never been such a ceremony in Kenya - ever!! perhaps you are referring to the one conducted at about 5pm...7 hours BEFORE midnight! Why are you stopping them?...it was once considered a 'late afternoon swearing in' ceremony, it slowly moved up the ladder and became a 'night swearing in' ceremony and now its already a 'midnight swearing in'. if they proceed like this it will be an 'early bird' swearing in ceremony next year and a midday swearing in ceremony by 2013. by 2015 it will have reverted back to the late afternoon swearing in ceremony it once was. Ama Impunity wanted to say that it was midnight somewhere on the globe (perhaps china) All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Impunity wrote:freiks wrote: We (Nithi voters) made sure that anybody who had a voters card came out to vote Even if the total tally was more than the total population of the constituency(toddlers and infants included!) by as high as 20%... Rants of the middle class. I doubt those who post so passionately about the elections even voted. Biggest contribution was drinking phombe and eating mbuzi at the locsl while watching the tally on telly, in open shoes, tshirts and shorts. Kweli au rongo? Impunity should do a little reading - Nithi's voter turnout was 79% not even the highest in GEMA land - Othaya had 88%. But all these pale as compared with some certain pockets of Luo nyanza...uliza Kajwang juu ya Mbita, and Ojinga juu ya Bondo e.t.c. for their voter turnouts before speaking. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/14/2011 Posts: 132 Location: Darasani
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masukuma wrote:mukiha wrote:Impunity wrote:Me I think the people who should be at the Hague are those who stole the votes in 2007; beginning with those who facilitated midnight swearing-in ceremony and the one who accepted to be sworn in at that ridiculous hour.
Thats when njustice will be served.
Othaura falls squarely in this category. Please stick to the facts. There has never been such a ceremony in Kenya - ever!! perhaps you are referring to the one conducted at about 5pm...7 hours BEFORE midnight! Why are you stopping them?...it was once considered a 'late afternoon swearing in' ceremony, it slowly moved up the ladder and became a 'night swearing in' ceremony and now its already a 'midnight swearing in'. if they proceed like this it will be an 'early bird' swearing in ceremony next year and a midday swearing in ceremony by 2013. by 2015 it will have reverted back to the late afternoon swearing in ceremony it once was. Ama Impunity wanted to say that it was midnight somewhere on the globe (perhaps china) lol!  its always midnight somewhere!! All you can do is all you can do; but all you can do is enough!
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