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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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3 sides of a coin!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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TAZ wrote:@ Alma....No one has said this is a trial or Ocampo has to declare anyone guilty but to confirm a charge, the chamber must be satisfied that the prosecutor has sufficient evidence to establish “substantial grounds” to believe that the person committed the crime....that's why i said OVERALLY.
Question is do you believe the judges are satisfied with what he's presented so far? I don't think so, possible verdict is that he'll either be told to submit additional evidence to support his charges and request a second confirmation of charges hearing. The other Possible Verdict is case to be thrown out but we know LMO won't go down without a fight. Why the hell do people continue to argue over this issue? If the guys are guilty, we will know soon enough! Si you just be a little more patient. Dec 24th is only three months away after which someone will receive the Christmas gift, or a Christmas curse. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Robinhood wrote:TAZ wrote:@ Alma....No one has said this is a trial or Ocampo has to declare anyone guilty but to confirm a charge, the chamber must be satisfied that the prosecutor has sufficient evidence to establish “substantial grounds” to believe that the person committed the crime....that's why i said OVERALLY.
Question is do you believe the judges are satisfied with what he's presented so far? I don't think so, possible verdict is that he'll either be told to submit additional evidence to support his charges and request a second confirmation of charges hearing. The other Possible Verdict is case to be thrown out but we know LMO won't go down without a fight. Why the hell do people continue to argue over this issue? If the guys are guilty, we will know soon enough! Si you just be a little more patient. Dec 24th is only three months away after which someone will receive the Christmas gift, or a Christmas curse. Its gonna be a special Christmas....(sing in Christmas carol tune)...lalalalalalalalaaaaaaaa Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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KulaRaha wrote:I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....
Pathetic! I thought the fact that Ocampo relies partly on the same witness through the waki report weakens his prosecution?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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KulaRaha wrote:I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....
Pathetic! @KulaRaha, sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Burning Spear wrote:KulaRaha wrote:I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....
Pathetic! @KulaRaha, sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion. Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:Burning Spear wrote:KulaRaha wrote:I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....
Pathetic! @KulaRaha, sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion. Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple. .....maybe a predetermined mob has been put for you which when you don't follow, kuna chida!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Burning Spear wrote:KulaRaha wrote:I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....
Pathetic! @KulaRaha, sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion. Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple. .....maybe a predetermined mob has been put for you which when you don't follow, kuna chida!!! I'll leave mob psychology to you, while I keep my opinions. Serious conspiracy theories here... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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A Veteran Vs an Elder , who will win ? Mnapigana mbele ya watoto. tabia mbaya  . 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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KulaRaha wrote:McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Burning Spear wrote:KulaRaha wrote:I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....
Pathetic! @KulaRaha, sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion. Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple. .....maybe a predetermined mob has been put for you which when you don't follow, kuna chida!!! I'll leave mob psychology to you, while I keep my opinions. Serious conspiracy theories here... Reminds me of the "wazua Cocoon" described by a great wazua who left unceremoniously.Its a reality that such thing exist. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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'user'.....soma tena!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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Burning Spear wrote:KulaRaha wrote:McReggae wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Burning Spear wrote:KulaRaha wrote:I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....
Pathetic! @KulaRaha, sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion. Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple. .....maybe a predetermined mob has been put for you which when you don't follow, kuna chida!!! I'll leave mob psychology to you, while I keep my opinions. Serious conspiracy theories here... Reminds me of the "wazua Cocoon" described by a great wazua who left unceremoniously. Its a reality that such thing exist. Then you should strive to join the cocoon. The opinion setters. 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Cocoonists ? Burning Spear, Guest (24), jano, KulaRaha, Njung'e, Pierce, safariant, 'user', wanyuru, willin2learn
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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'user' wrote:A veteran Vs an Elder , who will win ? Mnapigana mbele ya watoto. tabia mbaya . Everyone has an opinion, and is entitled to it. You may worship the Hague 6, I may not. You may love Raila, I may not. But I can say what I feel, and I will. Cocoon or not...  Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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McReggae wrote:'user'.....soma tena!!! Mcdoba , Im talking about Elder Kulahepi and Veteran Mshale moto. No need of direct attacks . We are all brothers and sisters . 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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'user' wrote:Mcdoba , Im talking about Elder Kulahepi and Veteran Mshale moto.
No need of direct attacks .
We are all brothers. When ideas run out, it always become direct attack... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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'user' wrote:
Then you should strive to join the cocoon.
The opinion setters.
'They' certainly do not set MY opinion. Strive to join them? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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user, sawa sawa boss!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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Mtu Biz wrote:'user' wrote:
Then you should strive to join the cocoon.
The opinion setters.
'They' certainly do not set MY opinion. Strive to join them? My inside the box theory is that if you can't beat them join them or atleast organise for them to be beaten.Dont just complain 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:
When ideas run out, it always become direct attack...
..very common!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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