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McReggae
#101 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:13:45 PM
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Robinhood
#102 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:43:12 PM
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TAZ wrote:
@ Alma....No one has said this is a trial or Ocampo has to declare anyone guilty but to confirm a charge, the chamber must be satisfied that the prosecutor has sufficient evidence to establish “substantial grounds” to believe that the person committed the crime....that's why i said OVERALLY.

Question is do you believe the judges are satisfied with what he's presented so far? I don't think so, possible verdict is that he'll either be told to submit additional evidence to support his charges and request a second confirmation of charges hearing. The other Possible Verdict is case to be thrown out but we know LMO won't go down without a fight.


Why the hell do people continue to argue over this issue? If the guys are guilty, we will know soon enough! Si you just be a little more patient. Dec 24th is only three months away after which someone will receive the Christmas gift, or a Christmas curse.
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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KulaRaha
#103 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:13:01 PM
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Robinhood wrote:
TAZ wrote:
@ Alma....No one has said this is a trial or Ocampo has to declare anyone guilty but to confirm a charge, the chamber must be satisfied that the prosecutor has sufficient evidence to establish “substantial grounds” to believe that the person committed the crime....that's why i said OVERALLY.

Question is do you believe the judges are satisfied with what he's presented so far? I don't think so, possible verdict is that he'll either be told to submit additional evidence to support his charges and request a second confirmation of charges hearing. The other Possible Verdict is case to be thrown out but we know LMO won't go down without a fight.


Why the hell do people continue to argue over this issue? If the guys are guilty, we will know soon enough! Si you just be a little more patient. Dec 24th is only three months away after which someone will receive the Christmas gift, or a Christmas curse.


Its gonna be a special Christmas....(sing in Christmas carol tune)...lalalalalalalalaaaaaaaa
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willin2learn
#104 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:45:57 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....

Pathetic!


I thought the fact that Ocampo relies partly on the same witness through the waki report weakens his prosecution?
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Burning Spear
#105 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:51:51 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....

Pathetic!



@KulaRaha,

sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion.
"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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KulaRaha
#106 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:58:08 PM
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Burning Spear wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....

Pathetic!



@KulaRaha,

sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion.


Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple.

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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McReggae
#107 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:59:36 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Burning Spear wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....

Pathetic!



@KulaRaha,

sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion.


Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple.



.....maybe a predetermined mob has been put for you which when you don't follow, kuna chida!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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KulaRaha
#108 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:01:45 PM
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McReggae wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Burning Spear wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....

Pathetic!



@KulaRaha,

sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion.


Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple.



.....maybe a predetermined mob has been put for you which when you don't follow, kuna chida!!!


I'll leave mob psychology to you, while I keep my opinions.

Serious conspiracy theories here...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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'user'
#109 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:05:03 PM
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A Veteran Vs an Elder , who will win ?

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Burning Spear
#110 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:07:26 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
McReggae wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Burning Spear wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I thought this Muthaura had a smart lawyer...why then allow such a hopeless witness? That fellow was squirming in his chair like my son does when I catch him eating chocolates....

Pathetic!



@KulaRaha,

sometimes you follow the mob other than giving credit where it is due.Learn to give your own independent opinion.


Follow what mob my friend? I say what I see...simple.



.....maybe a predetermined mob has been put for you which when you don't follow, kuna chida!!!


I'll leave mob psychology to you, while I keep my opinions.

Serious conspiracy theories here...



Reminds me of the "wazua Cocoon" described by a great wazua who left unceremoniously.Its a reality that such thing exist.
"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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